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Aluminum in Oil Analysis

How concerned should I be with this report and what do I do about it? No heavy towing, but the truck has done a lot of snow plowing this winter. Last Feb report was before I did DPF and EGR deletes. This report is after Deletes.
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having the same issue as you with high aluminum. just did a quick mid oil cycle sample with about 1200 miles on the oil and it was high again. I'll post a picture of it today sometime. but here is a thread i started back in january when my levels started getting higher.

Blackstone Oil Reports are getting worse! What do I do now?

basically, in short, unless you know the grade of aluminum they are referring to, you cant be sure exactly which part of the motor its coming from. another thing that was mentioned to me was, think about how many trucks out there that don't get UOA's done that probably have high aluminum levels. and they run for thousands of miles without issue. just a thought.

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As stated it depends on the grade of aluminum. If I had to guess I would think its coming from the pistons. I guess just keep an eye on it.

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Kris. I just read your last thread on this topic. Don't know why I didn't find it in a search. But wow. That is some high Aluminum levels. Was this sample you did at 1200 miles just as high (127ish)? I am concerned at a 31 reading.

Fatboy: I hear what you are saying to keep an eye on it. But isn't the reason we do OA's is to tackle these issues in the early stages?

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Yea man I understand where you are coming from. We do UOA to catch problems before they come big. The problem is no telling where the aluminum is coming from. It could be pistons or other components. If you had coolant in your oil we could probably tell you where its coming from. The problem with aluminum is you would have to know for sure what component it is from. All you can do at the moment is keep an eye on it and see if it continues to go up or maybe it will go down. Maybe it was from ideling a lot while plowing.

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Yeah. It has gotten some hard work from plowing. And I mostly do large driveways, and small parking lots. So it's a lot of slow moving forward-reverse, etc.

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Kris. I just read your last thread on this topic. Don't know why I didn't find it in a search. But wow. That is some high Aluminum levels. Was this sample you did at 1200 miles just as high (127ish)? I am concerned at a 31 reading.

Fatboy: I hear what you are saying to keep an eye on it. But isn't the reason we do OA's is to tackle these issues in the early stages?

Thanks for the replies.

it ended up being 1400 miles.. but the count was still high. 69 after 1400 miles.. here.. i'll let you see for yourself. the truck runs freaking awesome.. it doesn't miss a beat, i just had it out hauling my dump trailer loaded down with junk, about 8K lbs total on my gearhead Hot Street tune, never once gave me any issues, and then just yesterday , i plowed for 12 straight hours, didn't miss a beat. I love this truck, but this aluminum stuff has me worried.
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Not trying to start a BS oil argument but out of curiosity, what motor oil are you running? I read a couple oils can cause high aluminum, so I switched my oil and will be finding out if it's really a factor for my truck.
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I'm using the Ford MotorCraft 15w-40 diesel blend for Powerstrokes.

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Some oils I'm sure will cause a jump in ppm but not jumps like we are seeing here

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