Back to Ford again:

[richardndawnc]

Here are the codes that Ford pulled on the truck today-- they say that they all have to do with the missing DPf of course, but this truck has had this issue since the day I bought it it's just gotten really bad lately. Codes are : P2563: P2263 : P0401 : and P006D. All they want to do is look at the truck and say ther's the problem you took the filter off dumba$$ , it will not run like that. I know they are confused about the reprogram , but tried to explain this to them and told them that if they downloaded a new program into the truck they will owe me a grand to replace the program that they wil erase. All I want is for the truck to be able to idle for any amount of time and when I mash the throttle, take off , is this too much to ask without having to reset something by turning the ignition off and on right quick? Any ideas?? I am sure the 401 code is from the plug that is in the egr cooler. BTW -- but I can live with that one, it was plugged because ford said the valve was bad ,was what was causing my problem , so I just plugged it off -- still doing it -- go figure.

[metro7100]

Richard I dont know if this will help, but If you load the stock setting back into your truck and your program back into your chip then take it in to them the only thing missing would be the DPF. If you put that back in it should be completely back to stock and they shouldn't have a problem with that(once they replace the bad EGR on warranty).
My buddy took his Excursion in and forgot to upload his stock settings, they flashed his computer and wiped out his chip (they were working on the A/C but noticed there was an update to the computer so they did it without permission). They only paid for his chip when he had his attourney send them a letter, now they try not to work on his cars.

[sporacer]

p2563 turbo boost control sensor A
p2263 turbo boost performance For these codes the problem could be sticking vanes in the turbo or the actuator.
p060d internal control module acc pedal performance need to be tested
p0401 egr no flow you know why

[blacksnapon]

A ford dealership has reference values to look at for any particular speed/load/temperature/operating perameter. With your controller, you've changed those values (the diagnostic procedure we've been trained to do, wont work.). Try calling KEM for a list of reference values, so you can watch the data stream to see which one(s) are out of spec.

[richardndawnc]

I tried to plug in the programmer today to see a data stream and the programmer read -- " unit has internal fault call dealer for assistance" so I have got a message to KEM about this new isuue -- Ford has been helpful and is giving me any materials I need to go through that they have for me to try to figure this out. I just need this truck to work ,because my business depends on it. The waste gate controller broke about 5 months ago and to get home I had to rig the waste gate itself up with a bungie cord to keep it from staying closed, I put my cord back on yesterday and -- No problems at all today, so there has to be somthing either in the controller harness or ecm side that is loosing connection. I have noticed that the controller resets when the key is cycled and thats when it builds boost. I believe that I have norrowed down the gremlin I just need to capture him and kick his A$$ out of my truck !! Thanks for the info

[powerstrokes only]

Hey Richard, looks like you are at least getting some better milage out of this 6.4 now that you got rid of the DPF! Have you got a huge power increace with the KEM also? Sounds like you are getting your glitch narrowed down, good luck! I get my '08 out of the body shop Wed., then it is going straight to Ford so they can figure out my boost issue or by the puke back!! I am having more fun making my old '94 IDI run better, put a bigger down pipe and 3 1/2'' straight pipe, new air intake, and turned the pump up!! I think it will out run my 6.4 now, and when it was stock it was pulling my 40' within 5-10mph. of what the 6.4 pulls it!! It may pull with it now, and it was getting 9 and 10mpg where the 6.4 gets 5-6mpg., I bet I see better milage now too! Hope you can get everything figured out!

[richardndawnc]

The power is just an added bonus , I get told on the CB that I need to back off her or shes goona blow by the other haulers I pass ( duracraps mostly) and I just tell em that shes on 67 criuise and still in Overdrive :fawkdance: . But I am glad that you too are enjoying going back to old school as well. I just am afraid to get way off with the miles that are on the 7.3 truck. I talked with a diesel performance specialist here today and if I can not get the 6.4 to act right we are gonna remove this goofy "twin turbo " crap and just replace it with a aftermarket style unit and just adapt it to the intake inlet and just run her till whatever and then probably drop either a 7.3 or a --- um a 5.9 12V cummins in her. This is just way to problematic for what I need it to do. I need something thats basic, any NAPA accross the country will have parts for if needed and I can actually do the work if needed on the shoulder and not wait for Ford to get through analizing their input parameters and just fix the darn truck -- but it is just too new for all of the bugs to be known and seen still -- I am way to tired of hearing this, 82,000 miles and I have had it for 10 months now -- so somebody hopefully at the dealer is studying the blue prints of the lug nut studs to see if they may be the culprit of my off idle non boosting troubles.

[powerstrokes only]

Originally Posted by richardndawnc

The power is just an added bonus , I get told on the CB that I need to back off her or shes goona blow by the other haulers I pass ( duracraps mostly) and I just tell em that shes on 67 criuise and still in Overdrive :fawkdance: . But I am glad that you too are enjoying going back to old school as well. I just am afraid to get way off with the miles that are on the 7.3 truck. I talked with a diesel performance specialist here today and if I can not get the 6.4 to act right we are gonna remove this goofy "twin turbo " crap and just replace it with a aftermarket style unit and just adapt it to the intake inlet and just run her till whatever and then probably drop either a 7.3 or a --- um a 5.9 12V cummins in her. This is just way to problematic for what I need it to do. I need something thats basic, any NAPA accross the country will have parts for if needed and I can actually do the work if needed on the shoulder and not wait for Ford to get through analizing their input parameters and just fix the darn truck -- but it is just too new for all of the bugs to be known and seen still -- I am way to tired of hearing this, 82,000 miles and I have had it for 10 months now -- so somebody hopefully at the dealer is studying the blue prints of the lug nut studs to see if they may be the culprit of my off idle non boosting troubles.

I am pretty sure International is running a single turbo on this 6.4. Maybe thier set up is better. If you switch out engines I hope you go with a 7.3, I would like to see a torque shift behind one of them! I pulled two big loads of pipe with my '94 IDI turbo yesterday, first good loads since I put on the exhaust and turned up the pump. It has twice as much low end grunt as my 6.4! I had to put my 6.4 in low-range last time I hauled to this location, the 7.3 never had more than half throttle! I had over 20,000lbs. of pipe on each load, and this old sucker pulled great! Never saw my EGT's over 775 degrees! What a difference, Ford seems to be going backwards when a '94 IDI 190hp turbo can whip up on an '08 350hp. and the '94 almost has 290,000 miles. I too am not impressed with this twin turbo set-up, I don't see any of the low-end take off they brag about! Oh well, I am stuck with my lemon unless I can get Ford to buy it back, which I am going to really work on! Keep me posted on your findings!

[TwinTurboStroker]

Hey Richard, sorry I didn't see this earlier....I'm sorry I'm trying to catch up, whats wrong with the truck, it won't idle or it dies at idle? I see that is looks like you got it narrowed down at least....I have you told the dealership since it looks like they are willing to work with you?

[richardndawnc]

The dealer here is always willing to help since the 2007 6.0 incident that I could have caused a big deal over and did not. They still though want to always blame the mods that are done first before looking into the real deal. Mike e-mailed me today and the code P006D that Ford has no info on -- HE found that that is a code for a barometric sensor pressure to turbo pressure sensor reading problem , so I probably have a bad BARO sensor according to him.The other codes are for turbo boost controller issues that are just there from the programmer setting boost at different timing intervals than stock.And of course the P0401 is for the freeze plug in the manifold on the EGR tube inlet. SEE is this guy is AWESOME or what???
Julian , do you have all of the sensors in the DPF still plugged up or just the rear one thats required? And hows the Black Beauty coming along?? Sorry I have been really busy as well, I guess its a good thing being self employed and all - But I hop all goes well and that everyone here gets a KEM programmer for christmas !!