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post #1 of 20 Old 11-03-2010, 08:18 AM Thread Starter
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Suddenly the 6.0's look good!

The 6.4 will never make the 500,000 mile mark like my 6.9 did. And, I will put the farm on the fact that diesel engines will lose the concept of dumping fuel into the dead (exhaust) stroke of the engine in the near future. That being said, we are stuck with a very bad design if we play by the rules. Ford needs to retro-fit our trucks. When I spent my money on this thing it was based on my prior experience with the 6.9. We need Ford to reprogram the 6.4 to stop washing out the cylinders and possibly add a fuel injector in the exhaust stream prior to the DPF. I paid a ton of money to buy something that will only run 20% of the miles that my old one did. We got took and need an attorney here!

Our oil is crap after 1000 miles? OMG!

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strongly agreed. Mine is in the shop for regen related items right now. (29,000 miles)

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A friend who is a Ford diesel tech has told me this: as bad as the 6.0's are, the 6.4's are worse.
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These trucks cost a lot of money to have a flaw like this. Heck I sold my 6.9 in 2001 with 500,000 miles and it's still running. The 6.4 is a great engine that is forced into rapid wear because of diluted oil. I've never broken the law but it kills me to think my engine is being washed out with fuel and worn out. And trust me, Ford knew about this. They took a cheaper way out and pushed extra fuel into the engine. It would have cost more to develop an extra injector or two that could survive in the exhaust stream and not soot up when being activated only when required. Easier said than done. It would be more like a fuel nozzle in a jet engine than a fine injector. My jet engines have them and do fine. I'm seriously thinking of something illegal because Ford sold me something that is not fit for it's intended use.
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I have had great experiences with 7.3s in the past, and I knew, for the most part, what I was getting into when i bought my used 6.0. That being said, if something doesn't change, my next truck will probably be a Ford gasser. I'm not impressed by the 6.4 and refuse to pay $50k plus for a 6.7. If the the 6.7 proves reliable/durable, then I may very well find a used one in a couple of years.

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A friend who is a Ford diesel tech has told me this: as bad as the 6.0's are, the 6.4's are worse.
The 6.0's are good when sorted out. And they don't contend with fuel being shot in during the exhaust stoke. My stupid truck always goes into regen while climbing a steep two mile grade to my house. Under a load, the back pressure goes up and she regens. The last thing I want to do is find a place in Socal to drive my truck around at 45mph when I want to go home. It's just a crappy idea. All of this for a little soot? I never see my neighbors 6.0 smoking and he doesn't have this crap on his. Is the little soot worth all the wasted fuel and destroyed engines?
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A lil unnecessary bashing of the 6.4 I see?? lol.
Well like you said, the 6.0s are good when sorted out.
The same is applicable to the 6.4s. All you gotta do is get a Spartan/H&S and
a new piece of pipe.. Problem solved and you've got a truck that can make over 500hp.

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A lil unnecessary bashing of the 6.4 I see?? lol.
Well like you said, the 6.0s are good when sorted out.
The same is applicable to the 6.4s. All you gotta do is get a Spartan/H&S and
a new piece of pipe.. Problem solved and you've got a truck that can make over 500hp.
You are exactly correct but what about the inspections now in SoCal? I think you need to be stealth and gut the stock dpf then toss a tune on it to stop the regen. We have to pass a visual here.
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Aaaah.. Ya, gutting the DPF would be a chore but worth it. But sounds like you're only option if you don't wanna have to switch exhausts every year.

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Takes me less than an hour to switch from my DPF/Cat delete pipe back to the stock stuff if needed.

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