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How do I get my factory steering back

Hey guys I put a leveling kit on the front and have a 2 1/2 over stock blocks in the rear. The leving kit was a cheap one off of ebay and it goes ontop of the coil. What so I need to do to get the factory steering back. My leveling kit did not come with any drops for the tranny or cross over bar (what ever that thing is called) If yall could let me know what to get to fix thw wobble steering feeling i would sure appreicate it.
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you could get a cross over steering kit... they are always a nice upgrade....
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Hey guys I put a leveling kit on the front and have a 2 1/2 over stock blocks in the rear. The leving kit was a cheap one off of ebay and it goes ontop of the coil. What so I need to do to get the factory steering back. My leveling kit did not come with any drops for the tranny or cross over bar (what ever that thing is called) If yall could let me know what to get to fix thw wobble steering feeling i would sure appreicate it.
I lifted the front of my truck last weekend with a 2.5" spacer
in the front. I used a billet spacer that goes under the coil
bucket. It turned the steering wheel to the right about a half
turn, which will be corrected when I get the alignment done. But,
in terms of driveability the truck feels like stock. I put in track
bar bracket spacers and a carrier bearing spacer, too, though. I'm
thinking you need at least a carrier bearing spacer. The general
rule is 1/4" for each inch of lift in the rear ... so I put a 1/2" spacer
on mine.

Have a look here, and email Jason at Newton Lifts ... he can help
you with what you need.

FORD SUPERDUTY F250-350 05-08 LEVELING LIFT KIT 2.5':eBay Motors (item 260469073944 end time Sep-27-09 09:11:25 PDT)
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Not sure as I can't see whats going on, but from your description, castor and camber sound suspect. Did you have it aligned after you put lift in? Did the kit come w/ any type of alignment cams? Is your front axle off center now? Is the truck crab walking? Bad vibration in the driveline?
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Not sure as I can't see whats going on, but from your description, castor and camber sound suspect. Did you have it aligned after you put lift in? Did the kit come w/ any type of alignment cams? Is your front axle off center now? Is the truck crab walking? Bad vibration in the driveline?
There is no shuttering or vibration the steering feels loose and wobley. I didnt get the truck re-aligned yet because im wanting to figure out what all needs to be done before and what needs spacers before I get it aligned.
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i still say a cross over steering kit would be your best option IMHO
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I lifted the front of my truck last weekend with a 2.5" spacer
in the front. I used a billet spacer that goes under the coil
bucket. It turned the steering wheel to the right about a half
turn, which will be corrected when I get the alignment done. But,
in terms of driveability the truck feels like stock. I put in track
bar bracket spacers and a carrier bearing spacer, too, though. I'm
thinking you need at least a carrier bearing spacer. The general
rule is 1/4" for each inch of lift in the rear ... so I put a 1/2" spacer
on mine.

Have a look here, and email Jason at Newton Lifts ... he can help
you with what you need.

FORD SUPERDUTY F250-350 05-08 LEVELING LIFT KIT 2.5':eBay Motors (item 260469073944 end time Sep-27-09 09:11:25 PDT)
Could you tell me how thick your track bar spacer is? Ill drop the track bar and the carrier bearing a 1/2 and see if that helps. Is there anything else that needs a spacer?
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or I can be ignored... LMAO
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Sounds like you just need an alignment to get things squared away again. Especially with your caster. Since you put spacers above the spring, your axle is rotated/rolled forward slightly as the radius arms angle more. This reduces the amount of caster you have, until you get it aligned.

Caster angle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd be cautious of dropping the track bar without doing the same to the drag link. (Especially with only a leveling kit.) Changing the angles of the track bar or drag link independently can cause a bit of bump steer. They are set up to operate in matching arcs to prevent feedback in the wheel. I had a jeep that needed the track bar angle decreased and once I changed it, since the angles were different, the bump steer was bad. After installing a dropped pitman arm, the angles were matching again, and the steering issue went away.


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Do you have a link to this setup? Back in my jeep days, people used to refer to a crossover setup (incorrectly?) as one that had a tie-rod going all the way across, knuckle to knuckle as our trucks already do. What is the difference in the super duty version?

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Caster angle has changed, making the steering feel "lighter" and also in turn does effect handling in a good way in some situations, definitely not on the road though. Go into a GOOD alignment shop, tell them you just lifted the frontend 2.5"s and they should get you back into alignment. After that, to add resistance, go with a dual stabilizer setup. They're all pretty similar, I'm doing the Rize dual stabilizer kit with bilstein 5100's. Should be in the mail today so once installed, I'll post pics. After the stabilizers, if you still aren't happy with it, hydro-assist will make your steering stupid easy.
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