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OEM speaker replacement without an amp?

I'm looking to replace my OEM speakers but don't want to go as far as buying component sets that will require an amp. I've ran component sets in the past and don't want to run the extra wires or pay for an amp. I'm a fairly loyal JL Audio guy from the past but am open to other mfrs. Considering the JL Audio C2 line. The truck is an 08 CCSB without Nav or Sync but has the sub behind the back seat. XM and such work just fine for me. What suggestions do you all have?

Should I purchase individual components?

Will a component system work with a crossover and no amp?

Basically what is the best quality sound I can achieve without adding an amplifier to aftermarket speakers?

The same questions for replacing the subwoofer?

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Why change the speakers out if you're not going to do it right? If you want to do it right, spend a little more $$. Get the JL stuff, it's worth it. See my signature for what I have as far what I have. I would suggest an amp and at least two door speakers up front. The rear ones aren't so important because they are blocked by the seats. If you get the fronts sounding good, you don't even hear the rears. JMO

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For the fronts where would you mount an amp? I'm fine with crossovers but don't need an over the top sound system in a truck.

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Just go with the 400.1 JL amp and bridge it to two channels for the two fronts. You will have crystal clear mids and highs. I put my amp behind my back seat.

2008 F250 Harley Davidson 4x4, Upgraded LED lighting, JL Audio 13.5" Stealthbox, JL Audio C3 door speakers, JL Audio 500.1 for the stealthbox, JL Audio 400.4 for the doors, Viper 5704 alarm/SmartStart and GPS tracker, JimmiJammer door plates, JimmiJammer gateguard, Delete front lock/rear handle swap, DPF delete, MiniMaxx, 2.5" level, Sinister coolant filter, 55w 6000k HID's driving/fog lights, S+B CAI, MBRP 5" DP back exhaust, 35x12.5x20 TIS 20" rims, Nitto Trail Grapplers, adjustable track bar.
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I had the 400/4 on my previous car paired to a full JL Audio XR 650csi set in the front and VR690's in the back deck. Amazing sound but the money was the killer.

I really just want to upgrade the speakers for a cleaner sound and not mess with adding amps.

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Focals. Example- infinity kappas are badass when amped- focals are louder and krisper without an amp.


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I pulled the stock fronts out and replaced with Infinity reference 6.5" speakers that I had taking up space in the shop. I didn't use an amp, just pulled the stocks and put in the new ones. The sound was far better and much clearer. If I had another pair, I would replace the ones in the back pillars.

I was able to use the ford stock speakers to mount in my toolbox for a toolbox radio. They work great there.

Very simple and cheap project to get a better than stock sound quality without spending money on amps and what not. Depends on what you want, I was fine with the setup I would have.

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If you don't listen to your stuff that loud then save the money on the amp. But if you like to crank it up now and then, or blast the radio while tail gating or whatnot then you will def want an amp. Best comparison I can give is no amp is like a stock f250. Amp tuned properly is like an f250 deleted and tuned. If you hear a good system it's like having a stock f250 then going for a ride in a tuned truck.

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