Factory Nav Question

[George C]

Don't mess with a factory nav from eBay.
The price is dropping on those units, and as soon as the Sync units hit eBay, the 08' factory units will be worth about $200.00
The P6 DVD POI sucks. Just NO comparison between Garmin and that DVD. My wife has Sync in her Lincoln, and the POI is a joke. It doesn't have audio half of the streets where I live.

Get the Kenwood. When you get it installed, PM me and tell me if the power is the same or better than the stock Audiophile. I may also get one...


BTW, I was bored to death yesterday, so I ordered the Extreme 4300K HID kit for my truck. I'll let you know how it is...

[Pahrump]

LOL, I meant to buy the Kenwood today, but got busy, I am buying it tomorrow...hope its in by the weekend.

[A8050266]

Originally Posted by vshortt

I'm dealing with a similar issue so I have the answers for you. This is how it works. There are two things that are pertinent to what it is that you are trying to do. First, somewhere in your dash is a wire that is already running from a factory NAV antenna. All of the trucks are set up this way and the wire is only used in the event that a NAV head unit is installed in the truck. Therefore, the hardware exists for this portion. It is just a matter of locating it which I personally have not done. The second issue is once you install it, it will not just work. A OBI II handheld (or whatever Ford uses) has to be connected to the diagnostic port and a code must be changed. Your truck is equipped with a code that is specific for use with the type of head unit that you have. A NAV head unit requires a different code. Your dealer may or may not have the necessary code on hand but if you know someone (as in my case), he is simply going to go out to the lot, find one with a NAV head unit, and obtain the code.
Basically, I already have the NAV and I'm giving it to a friend who is going to buy me the head unit of my choice in return. It was during our process of determining if the switch would work that we obtained all of this information. Basically, he was trying to discover what headaches he'd endure and was trying to determine if it was even worth it. The short answer is "yes". Anyway, we have a diesel mechanic buddy who works for Tommy Vaughan (sp) in Houston. It was him who explained to us the issue about the receiver module with the existing antenna wire. It was HIS friend, the stereo guy, that told him about obtaining the code. This has been done by him on several occasions. I hope this helps to some degree.

Vshortt,


I dont want to step on your toes... But here is my 2cents.
I purchased a 08 with the audiophile system (No NAV)
Then I purchased a NAV system off of ebay. (I did my homework too)
The Unit I bought has the same serial number designation for a 08 F series truck. What this means is .... PLUG and play....
2: The factory does not include a NAV antenna hidden in the dash... you have to install one. (At least I did)

Cons of ebay. (well not really ebay but the unit you may end up with.)
If the unit did not come out of a similar vehicle as yours then you will have the matter o having the unit re-programmed Via the dealership or an alternate source. Alternate source will cost +/- 100.00 (Plus shipping)
Then the unit will (Plug and play) Also if you go this route. the dealership
is not going to warranty your unit since the serials dont match.

My Conversion cost me 900.00 when it was all said and done Shipping and the NAV antenna. Perhaps the Alpine/kenwwod etc.. might have been a better deal. but I wanted to just plug and play whilst still keeping my factory warranty. (Although I will be upgrading my system to a Mac based Touch system)

Just my 2 cents..
-=Sam











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[vshortt]

Originally Posted by A8050266

Vshortt,


I dont want to step on your toes... But here is my 2cents.
I purchased a 08 with the audiophile system (No NAV)
Then I purchased a NAV system off of ebay. (I did my homework too)
The Unit I bought has the same serial number designation for a 08 F series truck. What this means is .... PLUG and play....
2: The factory does not include a NAV antenna hidden in the dash... you have to install one. (At least I did)

Cons of ebay. (well not really ebay but the unit you may end up with.)
If the unit did not come out of a similar vehicle as yours then you will have the matter o having the unit re-programmed Via the dealership or an alternate source. Alternate source will cost +/- 100.00 (Plus shipping)
Then the unit will (Plug and play) Also if you go this route. the dealership
is not going to warranty your unit since the serials dont match.

My Conversion cost me 900.00 when it was all said and done Shipping and the NAV antenna. Perhaps the Alpine/kenwwod etc.. might have been a better deal. but I wanted to just plug and play whilst still keeping my factory warranty. (Although I will be upgrading my system to a Mac based Touch system)

Just my 2 cents..
-=Sam











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By all means, if you know something don't think, for a second, that I'd feel as though you're stepping on my toes. I'm glad to read the information. As a matter of fact, I only saw this because I decided to visit this thread to point out that I was going to being doing this sort of installation in a few weeks and that I would correct any data that was incorrect. Long story short, I'm getting a new head unit and a buddy is taking my Nav. He has an '08 FX4 with 6 disc in dash and no audiophile. Essentially what this will do is allow me to see every step necessary for myself and post first hand data as opposed to the "brother's mother's sister said" sorta stuff. Thanks again for the clarification.

[vshortt]

One more thing. Assuming a serial mis-match, I'm aware that it'll have to be programmed. The beauty part is that we (me and my friend) have a buddy at a dealership that is going to do all of that for free. I was also informed about the Nav antenna. You're correct. Mine must be removed or he'll have to order a new one. His truck is NOT equipped with one. I just learned that a few nights ago, as a matter of fact.

[A8050266]

Originally Posted by vshortt

One more thing. Assuming a serial mis-match, I'm aware that it'll have to be programmed. The beauty part is that we (me and my friend) have a buddy at a dealership that is going to do all of that for free. I was also informed about the Nav antenna. You're correct. Mine must be removed or he'll have to order a new one. His truck is NOT equipped with one. I just learned that a few nights ago, as a matter of fact.

Vshortt,
Ha no worries Just making sure... Thanks though. BTW>
On your buddies GPS Antenna. you can use any GPS antenna that has the right connector. Look on Ebay or similar should cost about 20-40 bucks.
the factory dealer Antenna will cost you ah limb.
best luck!

[vshortt]

Originally Posted by A8050266

Vshortt,
Ha no worries Just making sure... Thanks though. BTW>
On your buddies GPS Antenna. you can use any GPS antenna that has the right connector. Look on Ebay or similar should cost about 20-40 bucks.
the factory dealer Antenna will cost you ah limb.
best luck!

Hey, thanks for the tip. If I have trouble removing mine to give to him, then I'll simply suggest this route. Is there a "name" of the type of connector it is? Is there any way to verify that what I'm ordering is, in fact, the correct type? I'd ask you how hard it would be to remove mine but my guess is that you don't know because you've never had to deal with that. Am I correct?

[F450 DRW]

The newer Ford radios are controlled by the CAN BUS system and you might have to re-code the truck so that it will recognize the NAV system. Some stero shops are able to do this but most likely you will need to be friendly with your local dealer. I was looking into putting a Microsoft SYNC nav system in and was told that it wouldn't be supported by the CAN BUS.

[Tarheel_6.4L]

I have the factory nav system in my truck. I think its the audiophile system but I'm not sure. It has the sub in the back seat and its a six disc changer. Is this unit able to play dvd's?

[A8050266]

Originally Posted by Tarheel_6.4L

I have the factory nav system in my truck. I think its the audiophile system but I'm not sure. It has the sub in the back seat and its a six disc changer. Is this unit able to play dvd's?

No... at least not yet anyways.