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Solved!! (Do I really need a Crate Motor?)

Hello All

I just wanted to thank everyone for all of the excellent suggestions. My truck is fixed and is running good now for (4) weeks

Original problem symptoms:

1) Water coming out of exhaust/muffler
2) White Smoke/Water Vapor from tail pipe
3) Water Reservoir has exaust coming out when cap removed and engine is running.

1st Repair Shop: Sanders Towing & Repair, San Dimas, Ca.

Diagnosis: Cracked Block, Replace Engine, Est Cost - $14,000

2nd Repair Shop: Long Beach Pacific Ford, Long Beach Ca.

Diagnosis: Cracked Block, Replace Engine, Est Cost - $12,500 (Discount Price)

3rd Repair Shop: All-Time Diesel Repair, Glendora, Ca.

Diagnosis: After Testing (Only shop to do this) they discovered that the EGR Cooler was leaking into the cylinder. Fixed the problem by replacing the the bad EGR Cooler.


I cannot say if the first (2) repair shops were negligent in their assessment, but neither performed any test to narrow down what it could possibly be. They both just looked at the symptoms and determined a total engine replacement. They both even went as far as saying it would be best just to replace the entire motor (Long Block) since the truck had so many miles... Wow!!!

Anyway the total cost for me was rather expensive, however if I had gone to a reputable repair shop from the beginning I could have avoided much of the total cost. These costs are:

Sanders Towing & Repair, Diagnosis Fee: $90.00
Towing to Long Beach Pacific Ford: $250.00
Long Beach Pacific Ford, Diagnosis Fee: $190.00
Towing to All-Time Diesel & Repair: $250.00
Repair EGR Cooler: $1200.00
Rental Car: $600.00 (24 Days)

Many Thanks again to all who helped me in this forum and to All-Time Diesel & Repair. Bill and his mechanics there are the best. I am glad to be up and running again... Hopefully I will make it to 200k befor anything else major breaks.

Regards

Scott

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man congrats that is way better than buying a new motor

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I guess I missed the original thread, how many miles do you have on it?



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Hello All

I just wanted to thank everyone for all of the excellent suggestions. My truck is fixed and is running good now for (4) weeks

Original problem symptoms:

1) Water coming out of exhaust/muffler
2) White Smoke/Water Vapor from tail pipe
3) Water Reservoir has exaust coming out when cap removed and engine is running.

1st Repair Shop: Sanders Towing & Repair, San Dimas, Ca.

Diagnosis: Cracked Block, Replace Engine, Est Cost - $14,000

2nd Repair Shop: Long Beach Pacific Ford, Long Beach Ca.

Diagnosis: Cracked Block, Replace Engine, Est Cost - $12,500 (Discount Price)

3rd Repair Shop: All-Time Diesel Repair, Glendora, Ca.

Diagnosis: After Testing (Only shop to do this) they discovered that the EGR Cooler was leaking into the cylinder. Fixed the problem by replacing the the bad EGR Cooler.


I cannot say if the first (2) repair shops were negligent in their assessment, but neither performed any test to narrow down what it could possibly be. They both just looked at the symptoms and determined a total engine replacement. They both even went as far as saying it would be best just to replace the entire motor (Long Block) since the truck had so many miles... Wow!!!

Anyway the total cost for me was rather expensive, however if I had gone to a reputable repair shop from the beginning I could have avoided much of the total cost. These costs are:

Sanders Towing & Repair, Diagnosis Fee: $90.00
Towing to Long Beach Pacific Ford: $250.00
Long Beach Pacific Ford, Diagnosis Fee: $190.00
Towing to All-Time Diesel & Repair: $250.00
Repair EGR Cooler: $1200.00
Rental Car: $600.00 (24 Days)

Many Thanks again to all who helped me in this forum and to All-Time Diesel & Repair. Bill and his mechanics there are the best. I am glad to be up and running again... Hopefully I will make it to 200k befor anything else major breaks.

Regards

Scott
I wonder if you can get at least your diagnosis money back from the first 2. Maybe show them what you've written here and tell them that you're going to send it to the BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair) if you don't get some justice.

Even if you don't want to be bothered with getting your money back, I'd file a complaint with the BAR. Incompetent shops and mechanics need to be weeded out.


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I Had 144,000 when the EGR cooler died
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Glad you got it fixed. There really isnt any diag that needs to be done on a 6.0 thats blowing water and white smoke. Egr cooler plain and simple. If it has anything over 50,000 miles i'd look at the oil cooler to. I'm disgusted that one of the places that didnt know what it was happend to be a ford dealer, unles they just felt like selling a motor.
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