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Cold Start Question with Videos

I posted this on another forum, but just wanted to put it here also to see if anyone had any other ideas.

I normally live down in the south, so have not really had any encounter with starting my truck in the cold. Came up north and have had a few problems.

Checked FICM with a multimeter when I was down in the south and the voltage stays at 48 degrees with key on, starting, and running.
Batteries are new and fully charged.
No codes popping up.

The truck will has problems in 30 degrees and refuses to start in the low 20s. Cranks and cranks and cranks and every time it cranks a puff of smoke comes out the tailpipe.

Here are the two videos taken of it.



It's a 2005 6.0 Lariat, 155k miles, oem oil and fuel filters. Oil was just changed about 2k miles ago to Rotella 5w40. Fuel filters changed about 5k miles ago.

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Not an expert but, Is it plugged in? Are you running fuel additive?

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Not an expert but, Is it plugged in? Are you running fuel additive?
Started running XDP's fuel additive about 3 fill-ups ago. I can get her to start when she has been plugged in, but I shouldn't have to plug the truck in at 25 degrees. No codes coming up saying anything about GP's and I have heard that they will always throw a code.
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Is that a winter additive? or just Cetane?

This is where we may disagree... plugging in should start happening at freezing IMO.

Is your coolant still gold?

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Already did a coolant flush and am running a CAT ELC rated coolant.
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Cool... I would say plug it in.

My truck doesnt like cold starts either, it usually takes 1-2 cycles to get things moving and that's with Amsoil, elc, and winter additive in the tank.

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I don't know if this will help BUT...
I had a wire that got corroded and wasnt charging my pass side battery OR powering the gpcm properly. At first I thought it was just cause it was below zero for a few days. it would start but it cranked for almost a minute first off and on. and blow white smoke rings out the tail pipe.
it wouldn't always act up just when the connection was particularly bad. finally found it and replaced the ends on the wire.no problem since.
as I said not sure of that will help your situation but it was kind of a weird one so I thought I would pit it out there and see if it helps you.

also I had NO glowplug response and NO codes for them ... hope this helps

I finally got the video to work to me your battery does sound a bit low on the cranking ?
so my guess is that or fuel ? you could be gelling up too?

let us know what you find. and side note I finally got a good cord run out the 120 feet to where my truck sits and plugged her in yesterday and it was VERY happy about that when i fired it up to go to town

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I think his SG said 10.4 which is on the mid line... mine is at 11 ish on my Livewire while the GPs are hot.

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Based on what we have seen for your post, it is a glow-plug or glow-plug control module issue. Use a current clamp to check the draw. Depending on the problem, you may not get a code. That it starts when plugged in, pretty much guarantees the diagnosis. FWIW, there is NO REQUIREMENT to plug it in at 20*F or even lower. However, it will like you if you do plug it in for an hour at those temperatures and 3 hours below 0*F.

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are you tuned? if so take it back to stock and try it. some tunes wont start good cold - for troubleshooting you need to go back to stock

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