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Old 10-09-2008, 08:22 PM
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'05 6.0 stopped running and won't start

Well I got home last night from a 4 hour drive with no problems then got up early today and was on my somewhere in the truck when it suddenly turned off. I then came to a complete stop, put her in park, tried to start her and the truck wouldn't turn on. It turns over real strong but it only gets up to 400 rpm, it sounds almost as if it wasn't getting any fuel. It has had a bad starting problem only when the engine is cold for a while now, which I have suspected as a HPOP going out. Where could I start looking? Fuses, fuel pump, fuel filters, sensors, HPOP? Thanks for any help guys, the truck is currently at a shop where I know they know Powerstrokes, I just want to get an idea of what might be going on. The truck is about 20 miles away from 100k.

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:07 AM
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There are numerous possibilities that will cause a no-start on these engines. First off, when you crank the engine over, does it "try" to start (meaning the engine sputters, farts, but doesn't quite "catch" but doesn't stay running)? If so, it is definitely a fuel issue. You mention it cranks over very well. How did you get it to the shop? Do you hear a strong buzzing of the injectors, when you key on? If not, your FICM may be on its way out. If it just cranks, but doesn't "try" to start, it definitely sounds like a low ICP (Injector Control Pressure) issue. 2005 to 2007 model years are famous for having the STC fitting blow out. There is an updated fitting that makes it a one-piece design, eliminating any possibility of future failure.
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I had it towed to the shop and it turns over very strong but, it doesn't "try" to start
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Well they changed the crank sensor and it made no difference, and they said the pressure from the HPOP is good.
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What were the DTCs retrieved? If P2614 and P2617 were the two, IGNORE them. That just means the PCM lost cam and crank sensor inputs when the engine stalled. You have to fix what caused the stalling. I'm assuming that ICP pressure is capable of building well over 500 psi when the engine is cranked over when you say pressure from the HPOP is "good"? Where did you have the truck towed to, an independent shop or dealership? What about ICP volts at key-on engine-off? Is it 0.24 volts or close? What about your FICM_L, FICM_M and FICM_V? FICM_L and FICM_V should be at, or close to 12 volts. FICM_ should be at, or around 47.5 to 48 volts. If all three drop rapidly as the engine is cranked over, your FICM is dusted. How about fuel pressure? Does it increase to 56 or so, psi?
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Where did you have the truck towed to, an independent shop or dealership?
Independent shop, and they said there are no codes.
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Old 10-11-2008, 08:46 PM
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while u were cranking did u notice if the oil pressure guage was moving or not. might have a oil leak off the quick connect fitting from the hpop.
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Well, the shop has diagnosed it as a bad HPOP. I will go ahead and clean the turbo while it is off. I have put off doing an EGR bolck-off because I didn't want any downtime on the truck and now the truck has had plenty of down time. Will the pipe that I need to block off for the EGR block off be a lot easier to get to now that a lot of the top end of the motor will be off for the HPOP install?
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Before you hit 100k, you should buy the Ford 200k warrantee.
I just bought it from a place in Texas for $1400.

It's a really good insurance for the price, but you have to buy it before you hit 100k.
It has a zero deductible on the major engine stuff: turbo, injectors, ERG, heaads and gaskets, everything inside the engine, etc...
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:43 PM
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I'm like 20 miles away from 100k.
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