04 F250 fuel & oil change started, then died - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
6.0L Problems Forum Having Trouble? Post here

User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 Old 02-16-2013, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 105
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
04 F250 fuel & oil change started, then died

So today, I changed my fuel filters to motorcraft filters after using what pep boys had to get me up and running a few weeks ago. Truck died after putting biodiesel in it, basically it gelled up and had to heat up with torpedo heater for a few hours to get everything flowing again.

Changed oil to my normal rotella 5w40 synthetic, new oil and fuel filters from Ford dealership. Changed everything, cycled about ten times and started right up. Let it run for a few minutes while I was putting away my tools and all of a sudden truck shuddered and died. Tried restarting with no luck. Checked top bowl and not getting any fuel there. took bottom filter on and off about five times thinking I'm getting air somewhere.

Is it possible that whatever I had left in the tank from before hasnt been burned up and is gelled also? Its been two tanks of fuel. Pump is running everytime.

Any ideass?

Basically got my batteries on a charger now cuz they're dead>
jdilliplane1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 Old 02-16-2013, 06:13 PM
Premium Member
 
southend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 5,201
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Re: 04 F250 fuel & oil change started, then died

Do you have the motorcraft filter caps to match? Sometimes the primary filter can suck air if not seated correctly.

Sent from my phone that somebody didn't help me get.

Unfortunately had to Sell my ......2004 KR CC SWB FX4 - Edge insight cts, blue spring upgrade, updated HFCM drain plug, XDP coolant filter, CAT EC-1 rated coolant, Custom Diesel EGR delete, CAT delete, Rotella T6

SEE MY OIL COOLER REPLACEMENT AND EGR DELETE - http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/gen...tml?highlight=
southend is offline  
post #3 of 13 Old 02-17-2013, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 105
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
oil

So the outcome was finally got it started. After priming like 35 times, finally got fuel to the top bowl. Another 35 times cranking and a 20 second shot of carb cleaner finally got her going. Starts fine everytime after the initial driving around to get the rest of the air out. Don't think this should be happening everytime I change the filters What a pain in the ***, just gonna pay someone next time.
jdilliplane1 is offline  
post #4 of 13 Old 02-18-2013, 08:09 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
You are correct, it shouldn't take that long to get going after filters. You have something else going on. What is your fuel pressure?

If you had let someone else do this change for you, I am guessing they would have started replacing things when they couldn't get it out of their bay... Could get pretty expensive.

MikeB

2005 F-250 6.0L, crew cab, long bed 4x4
completed in 2011: STC update, new IPR, BPD EGR cooler, oil cooler rebuild, 6.4 banjo bolts, blue spring update, SCT X3, Insight CTS, 58V FICM, CCV Mod, DIY coolant filter (now gone), refinished turbo
2012: ARP headstuds, OEM gaskets, standpipes and dummy plugs
2015: XDP coolant filter
PSDMikeB is offline  
post #5 of 13 Old 02-18-2013, 08:13 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
sprksonu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 921
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 11
Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
i would be careful using starting aids very very bad for the 6.0

WRECKED EM DAMN NEAR KILLED EM! 2005 f250 ccsb 4x4 Studded, 03 turbo w/billet wheel, AFE stage2, 5"diamond eye, BPD egr cooler & "NEW" external oil cooler, BPD 48v FICM, BPD water pump, BPD aluminum radiator, 6.4 banjo's, blue spring, HFCM e-z drain, riff raff boots, gearhead srl tune , PHP FICM tune, sct livewire 5015, updated stc, updated stand pipes & dummy plugs, updated oil feed & drain, Zerex ELC coolant, Pro Comp 6" lift, 325/70/17 Toyo open country at
sprksonu is offline  
post #6 of 13 Old 02-19-2013, 06:35 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
jimmyv13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Bloomfield, MI
Posts: 1,715
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to jimmyv13 Send a message via Yahoo to jimmyv13
Mine did the same thing after my most recent fuel filter change. Diesel Kleen 911 and a double dose of Howes and it's been perfect since.


2005 F250 CCSB Lariat FX4

4" MBRP Turbo Back*High Idle*Blue Spring*Updated Stand Pipes, Dummy Plugs*SGII w/Blendmount*Sinister Coolant Filter*SRL+*'10 Tailgate*2" level*Dicad EGR delete*Premium EdFICM*Powerslot Rotors*Hawk Pads*Riffraff boots*DIY CCV*4" Rear Blocks*ARP's*'10 Tails*Archoil*N-FAB Steps*'12 Rear Bumper*Dashboss*'08 Trans Pan
*Bullitt y-pipe
jimmyv13 is offline  
post #7 of 13 Old 02-19-2013, 02:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Shelbyville KY
Posts: 46
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
What is 911 diesel clean and Howes? I've got an '06 F250 6L that won't start. No heater installed. It's been fine but I drove it home and parked it for a week and it won't start. DTC indicates number 3&5 glow plug failure. I'd changed oil/filter and fuel filters. I've put a thousand miles since the service without issue. All I've got is Scangauge 2 for DTCs.
Thanks!
F250power6 is offline  
post #8 of 13 Old 02-19-2013, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 105
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Not sure about the fuel pressure although I have the blue spring upgrade already. Gotta get gauges I guess, any suggestions.
jdilliplane1 is offline  
post #9 of 13 Old 02-19-2013, 05:19 PM
Retired Army

 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I installed GlowShift Max Tow because at my ever-advancing age, those dials look cool but the digital readout makes it easy to monitor. Added the gauges first, saw low pressure (32psi or so @ idle) then blue spring and saw 52psi @ idle. Now after driving it some and replacing both fuel filters (Motorcraft), the pressure stays about 42 @ idle. Hate to think a new pump / AirDog II is in my near future.

Sorry, long story short, I like the Max Tow because they're both analog and digital.

2004 F250 SRW FX4 Lariat CC LB
Sinister delete, XDP coolant filter, NUC oil bypass, fumoto valves, AFE stock replacement, Riffraff boots, Ultra ELC, CTS and Glowshift gauges, SRL, Wicked Wheel
08 trans pan/filter, 08 diff cover, Racor CCV6000
ranger51r is offline  
post #10 of 13 Old 02-19-2013, 05:43 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
jimmyv13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Bloomfield, MI
Posts: 1,715
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to jimmyv13 Send a message via Yahoo to jimmyv13
911 reliquifies gelled fuel and/or frozen fuel filters and howe's is an anti-gel fuel conditioner.

I went with Glowshift gauges as well. The max tow series weren't out when I got the Elite 10 series. I'm happy with mine. I see 64 at idle and it drops into the mid-upper 50's at WOT.


2005 F250 CCSB Lariat FX4

4" MBRP Turbo Back*High Idle*Blue Spring*Updated Stand Pipes, Dummy Plugs*SGII w/Blendmount*Sinister Coolant Filter*SRL+*'10 Tailgate*2" level*Dicad EGR delete*Premium EdFICM*Powerslot Rotors*Hawk Pads*Riffraff boots*DIY CCV*4" Rear Blocks*ARP's*'10 Tails*Archoil*N-FAB Steps*'12 Rear Bumper*Dashboss*'08 Trans Pan
*Bullitt y-pipe
jimmyv13 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome