Originally Posted by 95powerstroke5spd
But the fuel pump was bad, correct ?
Well they replaced the pump after they had the FICM Replaced and Reflashed by Ford, the tech who drove it home said it ran great. So my guess is no.
You're being taken for a huge ride buddy!!!
I would not let them touch it anymore!
The first sign of being taken for a ride was the guessing of the turbo and 5 bad injectors... That clearly means they have no idea how to check/diagnose the truck.
For some reason I'm doubting it is the fuel pump.
Yeah I was a little shocked when I was first told that 5 of my 8 injectors were bad, kinda made me wonder how I was able to start it and drive down the road at all.
You've been had, i'd be surprised if the fuel pump is bad, and not just another geuss. The warning signs are there. Ford manual says to plug in the block heater at -10°, iirc. I personally thought that was too low, but i'd have to check again.
Sent from my phone that somebody didn't help me get.
I was thinking the same thing. I plug the truck in every night and have since it got down to the mid 20's. I allow it to warm up for at least 10 minutes before going anywhere. I was a little surprised to hear that hey didn't have it on the heater at all. Considering that this is a predominantly heavy truck shop, you'd think that would have been common practice.
That is what they say. It's probably for the EPA points. But everything on the truck needs to be operating 100% or it probably won't go. As many know, short trips with multiple start cycles will make the batteries pretty useless at those temperatures unless they are near full charge.
It is possible your fuel had some water in it and that could have created the fuel pump's problem, but that isn't the shop's fault. Same for fuel gelling, you live in MN, you should have good winter diesel. If you're not sure, you should be adding fuel conditioner with anti-gel properties.
Some problems can be masked by others. If they don't have all the kit or knowledge to track problems down, a lot of parts could be thrown at it. Sometimes the parts might be needed to rule out a problem. However, the shop should be able to test the simple things for rough running (FICM, HPOP pressure, fuel pressure, EGR, and perhaps the turbo) and do a contribution/balance before moving to parts. Whether you were taken for a ride, depends on how they proceeded. From what you are saying, there may have been more guessing than following the bouncing ball. You need to find out what tests were done and in what order. That is the only way to determine if you were over-charged or taken for a ride.
I agree that yes, there were quite a few things that could have lead to to the demise of my fuel pump but the story I had. Truck was taken to ford to have the FICM flashed, Driven home with no problems. Truck is parked no heater, no anything. Next morning they go to give it the final inspection they let it run for 20 minutes. The truck dies. Right there something should have been like a light turning on. But instead they started it again and it runs for 20 or so, they go to take it on a test ride and it dies completely, has to be towed back to the shop. It isn't until then that they put Diesel911 in the tank. Set it inside over right and lone and behold the pump is "Dead". I'm not saying that it couldn't have been weak or on it's way out, but the timing and situation point at a more likely case. Fuel gelled they attempted to run the truck on something that was thick as snot, and that pump burned out trying to pump it.
So thanks for all the responses on all this, just making sure I wasn't over thinking this.