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Old 10-30-2007, 12:53 PM
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I have a 2004 F350 Lariat 6.0 w/113k miles.
Last week I drove from house to doctors appt. about 8 miles, and had white smoke bellowing out from exaust! On last 1/4 mile the temp pegged out. I turned it off & let it set for 6 hours to cool. I put 2 gallons antifreeze and 2 qt. oil and then it started and ran fine. I drove it around town for one week, no problems at all. Yesterday I started to go to work and the same thing happened, it was VERY hard to start but when it did, it smoked like a chimeny. I turned it off and checked it in the evening, same thing 2 gallons low. I called the dealer in montana were I bought it, they said they replaced the EGR cooler in 05.
Could this be the same thing again? or the head gasket?
i have no warranty because of 113k miles. PLEASE HELP!!!
btw... the truck is pure stock, no add ons.

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1st time posting here!

I have a 2004 F350 Lariat 6.0 w/113k miles.
Last week I drove from house to doctors appt. about 8 miles, and had white smoke bellowing out from exaust! On last 1/4 mile the temp pegged out. I turned it off & let it set for 6 hours to cool. I put 2 gallons antifreeze and 2 qt. oil and then it started and ran fine. I drove it around town for one week, no problems at all. Yesterday I started to go to work and the same thing happened, it was VERY hard to start but when it did, it smoked like a chimeny. I turned it off and checked it in the evening, same thing 2 gallons low. I called the dealer in montana were I bought it, they said they replaced the EGR cooler in 05.
Could this be the same thing again? or the head gasket?
i have no warranty because of 113k miles. PLEASE HELP!!!
egr cooler /oil cooler , head gaskets do not blow out the exhaust, and by the way thats why i sad oil cooler also, if they didnt replace that they didnt fix the problem, the oil cooler is what generally causes egr failure
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egr cooler /oil cooler , head gaskets do not blow out the exhaust, and by the way thats why i sad oil cooler also, if they didnt replace that they didnt fix the problem, the oil cooler is what generally causes egr failure
would this cause the loss of antifreeze and white smoke?
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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the coolant will get into the exhaust through the egr cooler internally and cause you to lose coolant and create white smoke. The reason the egr coolers go is the oil cooler goes out and causes the temps to rise in the egr cooler and it melts the solder causing the leak.
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the coolant will get into the exhaust through the egr cooler internally and cause you to lose coolant and create white smoke. The reason the egr coolers go is the oil cooler goes out and causes the temps to rise in the egr cooler and it melts the solder causing the leak.
would this cause the very rough/grinding/sometimes wont even click, starting and also about how much is this going to set me back?
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would this cause the very rough/grinding/sometimes wont even click, starting and also about how much is this going to set me back?
when its doing that its trying to hydrolock the engine cause the coolant is filling up the cylinders , you keep trying to crank it like that and youll bend a rod , that isnt a cheap repair , im guessing 1500.0o depending on where you take it
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when its doing that its trying to hydrolock the engine cause the coolant is filling up the cylinders , you keep trying to crank it like that and youll bend a rod , that isnt a cheap repair , im guessing 1500.0o depending on where you take it
I did it only once (this morning) it finally started and I noticed the smoke again, thats when I shut it off. I will have the tow truck move it to the dealer im not driving it again like this!
1500 for egr cooler is better than 3000 for heads.
I guess
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your correct.
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the coolant will get into the exhaust through the egr cooler internally and cause you to lose coolant and create white smoke. The reason the egr coolers go is the oil cooler goes out and causes the temps to rise in the egr cooler and it melts the solder causing the leak.
so if im correct this means that i should have the egr AND the oil cooler replaced right?
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just want to say thanks for the quick response to my ???'s Now i just have to find a way to pay for the repairs.
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