FOR WANTS TO VOID MY WARRANTEE /6.O!!! LEVEL SPACERS

[eazenutz33]

Originally Posted by trhland

i have the factory rims though. im running 285/65 r18 tires

I cant imagine those rubbing......if you said you were running 35's on stock rims I could maybe see the tires rubbing, or different rims might rub.....but not stockers.

And the spacers I looked at today mounted at the top of the spring, and I wouldn't think they would instruct you to put them where it would make a problem versus where it wouldn't. There would be more people with the same problems if the instructions were off too.

Your problem is something else, I would challenge them to find the problem and PROVE the spacer caused it, especially since its within the same range as a factory installed lift!

[bigwes]

Originally Posted by eazenutz33

I'm sure thats not exactly what you wanted to hear, BUT what you might ant to hear is when we were discussing the fact that the FX4 could have a factory 2" lift, then by ____________ law(I can't remember the two names on the law, both start with an M, I think the second is Moss) thats states that any part you buy at OEM quality or above....the manufacturer has to stand by their warranty.

Magnuson-Moss Warrenty act.......they have to prove that the aftermarket parts caused the problem.

[eazenutz33]

Originally Posted by bigwes

Magnuson-Moss Warrenty act.......they have to prove that the aftermarket parts caused the problem.

nice work.....I can remember alot of stuff, but have forgotten those two names over and over again!

[Blue01F250]

We used that law a LOT as an insurance adjuster when people tried to complain about aftermarket collision parts...

They definately have to PROVE that the aftermarket parts CAUSED the damage.

[bigwes]

Originally Posted by eazenutz33

nice work.....I can remember alot of stuff, but have forgotten those two names over and over again!

Having it on eleventybillion business law exams made it stick in my head lol

[trhland]

you think it could be a caliper issue?theres some kind of metal rubbing

[BigGreen06]

Originally Posted by eazenutz33

I talked to them about the same situation since I was wanting to put leveling spacers on my 250......they told me after Sept. of this year, ford sent out a memo stating that with alterations to a stock vehicle, if that alteration is found to be the culprit of the problem, they CAN AND WILL VOID YOUR ENTIRE WARRANTY! Bunch of BS if you ask me, but the Ford service manager told me it was primarily due to diesel and mustang owners who highly modified their trucks and cars. He said the main problems they were seeing were due to programmers/chips(electrical), lifts(drivetrain, tranny), wheels/tires (tranny and motor) and air intakes (motor). We also discussed the fact that FX4 packages ca have a factory installed ~2" lift, and he stated that lift kits could cause waranties to be voided on the basis of changing the drive train angle when drive train problems or tranny problems arose....same thing with massively larger wheels and tires if you ended up tearing up a transmission or motor. He said air intakes, namely the filters could be accused of not filtering enough particles and allowing too many particles to get into the motor if you had related troubles.

I'm sure thats not exactly what you wanted to hear, BUT what you might ant to hear is when we were discussing the fact that the FX4 could have a factory 2" lift, then by ____________ law(I can't remember the two names on the law, both start with an M, I think the second is Moss) thats states that any part you buy at OEM quality or above....the manufacturer has to stand by their warranty. Since and FX4 can have a factory 2" lift and still retain its warranty, your truck should retain its warranty with a 2" leveling block(don't tell em 2.5" in case they wanna get picky)! I would call em on it and find what that law/act is and bring a printed copy with you and tell them you have a lawyer on retainer if they want to argue it. Or if you dont wanna go thru that, put your stock shocks on, remove the spacer, and take it back in. Get the service done and then put everything back on. From my understanding with most manufacturers, they look at warranty work as cutting into profits, so they void or deny them whenever they possibly can.....I haven't dealt with Ford yet, but can't imagine them being saints in a sea of douches!

I think its the Magnuson Moss Act that you're refering to: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There's a link to it. Hope you get everything worked out with the dealer and most importantly your truck. I'm getting ready to put a leveling kit on mine, so I might just print out that part of the Law and keep it in my glove box.

-BG06.

[eazenutz33]

Originally Posted by BigGreen06

so I might just print out that part of the Law and keep it in my glove box.

-BG06.

this thought has crossed my mind a few times!

[owtcast]

Originally Posted by trhland

you think it could be a caliper issue?theres some kind of metal rubbing

I think you may be onto something here. I have had similar troubles on other vehicles and rebuilt entire front-ends only to finally figure out that it was a faulty motor mount, transmission mount, shifter or exhaust touching sheet metal, or loose caliper etc. that shifted with the wieght transfer when turning. I know this doesn't tell you what's wrong but maybe scanning outside the box a little will turn something up.

[trhland]

guys i think i fixed the problem!!!! i went to my local mechanic. and told him the problem and asked him if he can take it for a spin and he said yes. so we drove around a bit and he heard the noise. then he closed his window and heard it better and it was coming from underneath it was a metel vibration sound. so we went back to his shop he took a look underneath the truck and said i might know what the problem is . the exhaust was rubbing the frame rail !! so everytime i made a left turn it was scraping the fram sending a vibration up the pipe and also on the frame!!!i feel so stupid. so he put a piece of rubber in there and so far so good !!!!! hopefully this is it .