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Question Ford's stock "new" oil cooler.

I am new here and this has probably been discussed ad nauseum, but what the 411 on the supposedly "new and improved" oil cooler for the 6.0?

I have a 2006 with 95K. So far, no problems but I am aware of the oil cooler/EGR cooler/delete issues. Am wanting to have them replaced. Ford wants to put the "improved" stock oil cooler back in, I'm not so thrilled about it. However any aftermarket such as the Fully Bulletproof system is pricey. Anything inbetween? Any GOOD things to say about the N&I Ford stock cooler?

Since Ford no longer offers a manual tranny in their new trucks, this may be the last new truck I ever own after having an '84, '88, '92, '96, '04 and this '06...all manual diesels, I need to make this one last. I would also like to maximize performance without breaking the bank.

I don't mind spending the $$$ on an aftermarket kit IF it is truely worth it. I need someone besides a salesman to tell me what works for them.

Also, I have been told that EGR Delete will improve economy and performance as well as my cold running issues (this truck runs like a drunk sow until it warms up in cold weather.....much worse than previous trucks). Is this true?

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I am new here and this has probably been discussed ad nauseum, but what the 411 on the supposedly "new and improved" oil cooler for the 6.0?

I have a 2006 with 95K. So far, no problems but I am aware of the oil cooler/EGR cooler/delete issues. Am wanting to have them replaced. Ford wants to put the "improved" stock oil cooler back in, I'm not so thrilled about it. However any aftermarket such as the Fully Bulletproof system is pricey. Anything inbetween? Any GOOD things to say about the N&I Ford stock cooler?

Since Ford no longer offers a manual tranny in their new trucks, this may be the last new truck I ever own after having an '84, '88, '92, '96, '04 and this '06...all manual diesels, I need to make this one last. I would also like to maximize performance without breaking the bank.

I don't mind spending the $$$ on an aftermarket kit IF it is truely worth it. I need someone besides a salesman to tell me what works for them.

Also, I have been told that EGR Delete will improve economy and performance as well as my cold running issues (this truck runs like a drunk sow until it warms up in cold weather.....much worse than previous trucks). Is this true?

Thanks!
My understanding is the coolant side of the oil cooler is larger less chance of getting plugged with silicate drop out from the Gold junk. Need to flush the system and run ELC coolant AT EC-1 Rated.
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The cold run problems may be the FICM need to check how old are you batteries, weak or bad batteries kills the ficm and the ficm kills the injectors.
Need to run a 5w40 Syn oil Ford filters only 5k miles max on the oil.
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Welcome dieseldingo. This is just me, but I'd be more concerned with the tech that is performing the work than concerned with the quality of the new ford oil cooler. If you have a competent tech that can perform the job then the cooler itself should work just fine. That's all I got. Welcome to the forum!

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Don't mean to high jack you thread but do you guys no if I can use the ec1 rated coolant right from international?? I don't hear of anyone running international coolant


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Don't mean to high jack you thread but do you guys no if I can use the ec1 rated coolant right from international?? I don't hear of anyone running international coolant
From what I understand, as long as it is ec1 rated, its good to go

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From what I understand, as long as it is ec1 rated, its good to go

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like he said. highly recommended over gold. for some odd reason, ford didnt use the elc IH did and look at all the problems. 2 stroker says it in his long a** gold coolant being junk writeup and the process of a 6.0 meltdown.

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The new oil cooler has something like 5% more surface area on the coolant side, which isn't much of an improvement IMO. Read this: Write Up: Bullet-Proofing the 6.0L PSD.
Follow those steps before/during your oil cooler replacement and you should be able to minimize problems later. From what I can gather, there's nothing in between the stock cooler and the BPD cooler.

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They added and "11th" row of cooling passages for an increase in efficiency of 5%

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Yes you can get elc from international...here they carry shell and fleetride


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They added and "11th" row of cooling passages for an increase in efficiency of 5%
Huh I must have went to the wrong school of mathematics. Because if you have ten rows and add one that would mean you were adding 10percent to the cooling not 5, utleast I am pretty sure of that but not a math mutation just a craps dealer on the Las Vegas Strip 5 percent
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