HP on stock inj. VS stage I

[dukcaln]

On the 6.0 whats the most HP with stock inj and the most hp with stage I inj. I may be changing my stage II 190cc out since I have had two go bad in a few hundred miles of each other......... or do i keep them and fix the one that went out

[FastFocus]

subscribed, as i wanna add stage 1's down the road...

[4x4freak]

fix the one that went out its cheaper!

[j_cyrus3]

Any reason as to why they're going bad?

[tex25025]

Originally Posted by 4x4freak

fix the one that went out its cheaper!

Actually, if he could handle the down time, he could have all his injectors rebuilt to any stage that he would want as that is what all 6.0 injectors are, rebuilt/remanufactored with bigger nozzles from stock injectors. That would be cheaper then paying for a "new" set from River City or Full Force. I would also be willing to bet that would be cheaper to have them reman your old injectors then have a Ford Dealership rebuild stock injectors back to stock specs.

With my stage 1s(150mm^3 or 150cc whatever you prefer) and my 64mm turbo, I put down 508 and 721tq. Now that extra bump over passed 500 on these injectors I would attribute to Matt being able to FICM tuning within the individual tune as before he was able to do that I hit 485 and that was with the exact same setup. Now we didn't run a straight dyno tune. The ECM programming was that of his hybrid race and the TCM programming was the dyno lock file(one of the benefits of being able to use a programming that seperates tuning on ECM, TCM, and FICM you can mix and match).

[dukcaln]

Well, injectors are out and being sent back to hypermax. Seems the #8 tip cracked, visible by the naked eye. Will keep 190cc. BAD NEWS, the head is cracked and fuel is in the coolant. So it needs a new head, which if I keep it I should probably do both heads. I will get aftermarket heads, re-use what I can, new gaskets re-use studs and hope there is no internal damage to rods and cyl walls or pistons. Have flush coolant system too. So it looks like it will be like a 6k or more bill...........or I destroke it, add a cummins and be done with it and part the motor out.....sale the injectors, stuff like that. My concern is since it hydrolocked it could have damaged the rods or something internally.....what do you guys think, what should i do..............

[mdub707]

If I had the coin, and seeing as you'll be spending a bit of it... destroked looks like a good option. As much as it kills me to say it, I'd probably go for the cummins. No point in dumping tons of money into a motor that may never be fully operational, when the cummins is cheap and easy to build in comparison. For the money you'd spend on this and the money you'd spend on a cummins (including all the ford parts you could sell off...) I'd just do the swap and be done.

[shu873]

If you wind up getting rid of the hypermax 190's let me know. I want to be first on the list...

[dukcaln]

Originally Posted by shu873

If you wind up getting rid of the hypermax 190's let me know. I want to be first on the list...

You will be, they are being sent to ron at hypermax and when i get them beck they will be good as new......looks like a cummins conversion, so parts will be listed for sale, I will know for sure monday

[Vizsla]

If it hydrolocked, the Cummins plan is appropriate. Sorry bout the luck.