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Old 07-26-2014, 08:01 AM
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Hey guys i have an 06 250 bulletproof and i loaded the 140x tune yesterday coming from the MPD which i liked alot. The 140x tune shifted...well really really hard, and i didnt like how it hugged 4k rpm for so long at wot. What do yall think about the tune? Everyone has said go with eric at innovative. I also have the SPD tune i havent tried either. Or if anyone has some tunes i could try out. Thanks.
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I've been running it for a while now you need to give the trans some time to learn the new tune ! IIRC you can unhook battery's & let it relearn that way when ever you change tune writers time for relearn is needed!
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I had the same issue when I loaded 140x.

I quickly removed it and pulled it off of my device.

I have everyone else's tunes and NONE of them behaved that way...
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I've been running it for a while now you need to give the trans some time to learn the new tune ! IIRC you can unhook battery's & let it relearn that way when ever you change tune writers time for relearn is needed!
Agreed. I just went back to mdp for now. Does yours stay on 4k rpm for what seems like forever? Lol
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I had the same issue when I loaded 140x.

I quickly removed it and pulled it off of my device.

I have everyone else's tunes and NONE of them behaved that way...
Exactly I DID NOT LIKE THAT at all dude. It was quick though but im like you I took it off. Ill prob buy erics tunes or something. Im seeing 16.9 mpg on mpd in the city hand calc
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Depending on how much leeway the tune writer gives the adaptive learning system to modify shift trimming and firmness, the tune should 'soften' up some over a couple days, some tuners allow the adaptive learning to intercede more than others. In a nutshell the adaptive learning measures the time it takes to complete each shift, then compares that to the 'target' and it adjusts accordingly, if it takes too long (slip) it will bump up the pressure, if it thinks it happened too quickly/abruptly, it will lessen the pressure. Sometimes if the shift isnt timed just right you run 'bind' where it tried to engage the next gear before the current one has totally disengaged, and vice/versa it will 'flare' between gears if it isnt quite right either... This part can be very tricky for tuners to get right, especially with aftermarket converters and with the adaptive learning constantly trying to modify the shift points/firmness until it gets them where it wants them. Might take a couple revisions to get right.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:48 AM
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I flip flop between Matt's SRL++, Wildman's Extreme, and Chris' Super Panty Dropper.

I really wish I could combine all 3 of them to make the ultimate tune!
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I had the same issue with PHP140X. I went wide open once and it scared the heck out of me!! I thought my engine/transmission was going to grenade. I just went with TSD/SPD and it is perfect! I also went with advice of here and did the trans no re-learn. Shifts are spot on, no probs whatsoever but I do know every truck responds different.
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I flip flop between Matt's SRL++, Wildman's Extreme, and Chris' Super Panty Dropper.

I really wish I could combine all 3 of them to make the ultimate tune!
i do the same but with Matt's and Wildman's

only other tune I had and didn't like the shifting and couldn't adjust to live with was innovative
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I had the same issue with PHP140X. I went wide open once and it scared the heck out of me!! I thought my engine/transmission was going to grenade. I just went with TSD/SPD and it is perfect! I also went with advice of here and did the trans no re-learn. Shifts are spot on, no probs whatsoever but I do know every truck responds different.
Yeah I didnt like it. Im running the mpd now and like it... so you like the spd tune? Im seeing pretty good mileage with the mpd
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