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ford gold? or cat?

i want to put the cat coolant in my truck but don't know where to get the model or purchase id number for that certain coolant, any leads would be helpful
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When looking for a Cat EC-1 approved coolant, I'd recommend that you get a silicate/nitrate free product. There is some evidence/speculation that the (drop out of) silicates leads to the oem oil cooler passages getting plugged.

I was able to order Peak Final Charge Global from the local O'Reilly Auto Parts. They needed to order it out of their 'heavy duty/commercial' catalog.
PEAK COMMERCIAL & INDUSTRIAL | FINAL CHARGE | EXTENDED LIFE COOLANT/ANTIFREEZE | AVAILABLE PRODUCTS

Others have used the Rotella Ultra ELC, Delo Extended Life (Nitrate Free) or Zerex Extended Life products.

Most auto parts stores will have no idea what you are talking about when you ask about a coolant with the Cat EC-1 rating. Going to a 'truck' parts place is usually the best way. e.g. locally, I can go to an International truck supply.

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As noted above, any ELC coolant with a CAT EC-1 spec is what you want.

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the reason the gold coolant plugs the coolers, is when air gets into the system, via blown head gasket or air lock when flushing the coolant, the air causes the coolant to gel. This is the reason alot of coolers fail with the gold coolant.

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the reason the gold coolant plugs the coolers, is when air gets into the system, via blown head gasket or air lock when flushing the coolant, the air causes the coolant to gel. This is the reason alot of coolers fail with the gold coolant.
Gold coolants also have some amount of silicates. Silicate contributes to the fouling of oil coolers and radiators.

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i would like to see some documentation of the Air being the reason for the gold having issues

this is the first I have ever heard that theory

I went to Cat ELC EC1 coolant using concentrate ( just mix your own for 50/50 )

i did this because my relatively new fill of G05 ( gold) went to goo and solid dropouts on a perfectly fine cooling system)
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perfect exactly what i needed thank you
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I personally want some silicates in the coolant. It prevents cavitation in the soft aluminum of the front cover behind the water pump.

There is nothing wrong with the Ford Gold. Silicates fall out of suspension due to heat changing the chemical makeup.

As long as a person knows this and changes the radiator fluid more often, there should be no issues with plugging up an oil cooler.

We have work trucks with the 6.0 that get a once a year drain and refill with ford gold. These trucks never have had an oil cooler problem...
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All coolants have additives to help prevent cavitation but not all use silicates to do this.


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As long as a person knows this and changes the radiator fluid more often, there should be no issues with plugging up an oil cooler.

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then my ford gold with less than 10k turned to goo for no explainable reason
it was premix from new bottles in a perfectly fine cooling system

i choose to avoid that future potential all together and I drank the red ELC koolaid

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