New 6.0 MOD Questions????

[Iowa_Stroke]

I just got a 2005 F-350 stock dually I am looking at the AFE CAI. What is the recommendations Stage 1 or Stage 2 what are the differences between the two?
I would like to mate it up to a banks TB with a SCT tune. However, I am open to ideas or suggestions on CAI or the exhaust.
I really don't want to much of a lift does anyone have a recommendations or opinions on leveling kits or lifts looking for 3" or less.
I am still searching the forum for all the great info. Also is there any other mods that need to be done on a stock truck ASAP?

Great Site and I am glad to be here.

[mudrunninpig]

the stock cai will flow extreamly well for now, I would put the money elsewhere first. I would get a new exhaust, guages and an sct x3 with custom tunes to start with

[tex25025]

Originally Posted by mudrunninpig

the stock cai will flow extreamly well for now, I would put the money elsewhere first. I would get a new exhaust, guages and an sct x3 with custom tunes to start with

x2, except I would do gauges first then exhaust, then custom tuning. Until you start playing with injectors and turbos, you won't need
an a/m air filter.

[UNBROKEN]

In order
4" exhaust
gauges
tuner...SCT of course
intake
fuel system upgrade
fuel pump upgrade
head studs/egr delete
injectors
turbo
transmssion

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

In order
4" exhaust
gauges
tuner...SCT of course
intake
fuel system upgrade
fuel pump upgrade
head studs/egr delete
injectors
turbo
transmssion

Wrong order.

On a 6.0, even a stock truck it needs to go in this direction.

Guages
Studs/EGR delete

those 2 are the most important thing on a 6.0 then your exhaust, SCT w/custom tunes, etc can come later but if you want the truck to last, get guages and studs/egr delete first.

[UNBROKEN]

Yea...I have no idea what I' talking about.
I've never done this before.....
Trust me...that's the right order.

Tunes have come a long way since the old high timing Diablo Predator days.
They are much more refined these days...so blowing the head gaskets is less likely than the "old" days.
Not to mention ANY higher power SCT tune will turn off the EGR...it's not a total fix but it's better than nothing.

You're essentially telling everyone that they need to do thousands of dollars worth of work before they can even begin to mod their trucks....on that point...you would be wrong.

Myself and many others went a long way with mods without head studs or EGR delete long before they were even available.
It's possible...if your tuning is good.

Or do I need to list my resume again ?

[tex25025]

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

blowing the head gaskets is less likely than the "old" days.
Not to mention ANY higher power SCT tune will turn off the EGR...it's not a total fix but it's better than nothing.

Not really with the 6.0. You can blow heads even in stock form without adding any hp. Second, eletronically shutting off the EGR is really hit or miss. I have seen some programs that turned it off and there were still EGR problems2345

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

You're essentially telling everyone that they need to do thousands of dollars worth of work before they can even begin to mod their trucks....on that point...you would be wrong.

No, in order to do some mods, you need to do supporting mods in order to handle it. Headstuds are pretty much needing in order to handle even some custom tuning on trucks without bigger turbos and injectors, just relatively stock.

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

Myself and many others went a long way with mods without head studs or EGR delete long before they were even available.
It's possible...if your tuning is good.

Just because y'all did all that stuff before studs and egr delete doesn't necessary mean that was the correct, easy, and most reliable way to do it. You may not have had a problem(which I doubt, but if you didn't then you got lucky, more people would have had a problem doing that way then without.

The order of mods that you supplied really isn't the best one either. Studs/egr delete should be done before intake. You don't need an intake until you started to do mods that will by themselves(turbo, injectors) bring you well over 500 hp, customing tuning alone won't do that(even though you listed intake around that timeframe).

[zippy557]

i went in the order of, exhaust gauges, x3 intake and am going to the fuel system and oil bypass next, then possibly headstuds, but as long as the person writing your tunes knows you dont have headstuds they should be writing them for that specificly and haven't had any head problems yet

[UNBROKEN]

LOL...take me to school fella's...I'm new.

You guys are buying the doom and gloom 6.0 stories.....funny.

Teach me, boys...I'm listening.......

It's kind of ironic that some of us tore down and broke our trucks more times than we can count...and spent countless dollars...to figure out what works and in what order...but now we know nothing.

[Evil Eye]

Originally Posted by UNBROKEN

LOL...take me to school fella's...I'm new.

You guys are buying the doom and gloom 6.0 stories.....funny.

Teach me, boys...I'm listening.......

It's kind of ironic that some of us tore down and broke our trucks more times than we can count...and spent countless dollars...to figure out what works and in what order...but now we know nothing.

Doom and gloom here, Rich. Mine went on stock tuning about the time you were putting the inspection holes in your block. It's still a crap shoot and while most times I would agree with you (and your extensive knowledge) this time I won't. Move the studs up.

PS. This isn't about challenging you or your buddies knowledge.