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post #1 of 11 Old 05-31-2014, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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Trans and injectors

yes i tried searching i couldnt find an answer. Im rebuilding my injextoros and turbo so i need to up grade my trans from people i have been talking to seems im going to be laying down 550-600hp so i need to upgrade my trans and might be towing heavy from time to time. Mine is a 06 F350 CC DRW 4X4 auto, 255/80R17 KM2s, 4" Diamond eye straight pipe duals, RR, AFE stage 2, SCT (getting IDP tunes, X, Street and tow), will be building the equal to a typical stage 2 turbo and im looking at 170/70 injectors but was wondering can anyone else point me to more places that offer good DIY injector rebuild kits 170ccs and up? and what mods to the trans do i need to do? Im not to heavy on the throttle all the time so i dont need an all out trans and im trying to save money and either rip it down myself and upgrade it (yes im a competint mechcanic just dont ask me to spell it right lol) Im new to power strokes though and so far im impressed even over my duramax (snapped crank shaft on stock tune towing) and cummins (multiple tans an fuel pumps with no tune) so basically im trying to stay around $1,500 for trans upgrades and $1,000 for injector kits any suggestions?

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Im rebuilding my injextoros

those sound bad a.s.s
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lol wow so anyways writing and spell check is not my expertise lol. so besides my bad spelling and grammer any input?

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Here's a good thread on DIY injextoros
Modifying injectors to larger flows

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Sweet info man cause it just happens IM A MACHINIST lol so this could save me GOBS of money thanks man

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well i figured out the injectors, now any input on the trans?

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I found DIY tread for both turbos and injectors, but cant find one for the trans. no one has a direction atleast they can point me to? i just want to rebuild it myself with new cltuch packs, the truck will be pushing around 600hp and stil tow pretty heavy from time to time (on a light tow tune of course, the 600 is on a race tune), so what do i need to do?

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I only know of a couple people that have attempted to rebuild a 5R and neither completed the build. Andy Warren builds great tranies at a very reasonable price, you might want to check with him.

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Windrunner attempted rebuilding his and ended up sending it to Andy to complete it, they take a lot of specialty tools. In some transmission you have to machine the pressure plate to get the extra clutches to fit, Nate's had to and so did mine.

If you do attempt to build it yourself I would install a PI converter, Raybestos clutches (2 added to each pack), Kolene steels, billet input shaft and ring gear hub, transgo shift kit with upgrade low reverse snap ring, new solenoids, and new coolers.

Here is Nate's thread on rebuilding his 5R
The BACKYARDIGAN Build Thread

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Comp Turbo 64/88 compounds
Warren 285/100
ODAWG ported intake
R&R rods, mahle pistons, stage 2 colt cam
Built Trans
Water/Meth

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At some point, you're gonna save $1 to spend $2 and it will take you two to three times longer to complete the project as opposed to if you just forked out the dough in the first place. There is no better example of this than with the 5r110 transmission and trying to Do It Yourself. Yes I tried it. And yes I got VERY close to having it done myself. I decided to take it to Andy to have him help me reassemble everything, because for me, it was more about having a tranny that I could be reasonably assured would function and drive right rather than saying I did it myself and then possibly have to go back in replace/redo something.

Like injectors, the number of 5r builders has increased over the past couple of years and prices have really come down. In fact, they've come down so low now that it is IMPOSSIBLE to build a 5r yourself (to the level that you would get if you just bought one from one of the reputable tranny builders) for less than what you would pay a reputable tranny builder. There are not only special tools, there are also little tricks that have to be implemented as well. I guess if you don't care about replacing all the bushings on a 100k+ mile tranny, ensuring that the clearances of the DD clutch pack are exact AND that you get ALL the extra clutches in, OR function testing everything before final assembly then yes you can build it for less.

Furthermore on the injectors, you can not buy nozzles straight from a MFG without being a dealer. So if you're looking to become an injector builder/dealer then go for it. Otherwise you'll have to buy them from an injector builder. And lastly on the injectors, you HAVE to have them flow tested. If for nothing else, just to ensure they all function and flow consistently the same rate. Sticking non-flow tested injectors that you just built yourself into your truck is just asking for issues IMO.

I gotta say man, believe me in that I am ALL FOR THE DIYer. I do just about everything myself. But at some point it just becomes more cost effective to just pay to get it done right the first time and call it a day. From two different stents now of having my truck down for 6+ months at a time, I can tell you that I would MUCH rather drive my truck than look at it sit in the drive way while I F'k around F'k around with little piddly stuff. JMO here. Anyways, you know I'll always answer your questions that you ask me in PMs, but I hope this insight helps you and others who read it. Best of luck with which ever way you decide to go.
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well that aggrivates me, not toward anything anyone said but the fact that these days there are special tool for everything and it almost seems so that there is a market to replace these things lol, and maybe one day i can build injectors locally for a hobby and yes i do plan on flow testing them to see how i did. I miss the days of pulling an old 350 SBC ripping it down and building a rat motor, things were so simple back then lol. but then again they could never touch my 6.0 in a streetable manner. I reckon ill just get one of those built trans, who can build one for a really good low price?

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