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So i just read the december 2008 issue of diesel world and came across an article about the new snow performance MPG-MAX boost cooler.. anyone have thoughts on this or have used the product? or any water/meth boost cooler..im looking into this, and do you actually get 100 hp out of water/meth, and same with MPG.. 100 hp seems like alot for a little water/meth spray..

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yes i am very curious as well. need it primarily to keep my egt's down, but would like to hear from someone who has used a water/meth kit. power gains etc...

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Im not sure how much power you will get out of it. I would say 100 HP is a little far fetched but I could be wrong. I run the stage 3 on my truck and love it. Ive never used it for power, I just run it for cooling. It does a damn good job of cooling.

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I run the Labonte WI on my car using a 50/50 distilled water and denatured alcohol mix. For gasers, it increases my octane which helps advance my timing which allows for quicker spool and higher RPM's without detonation. All this prolly won't help a diesel out too much.

What it also does is reduce my inlet air temps. It reduced the temps at WOT by as much as 45 degrees and this is critical.

I always see people using Snow performance on here. Nothing wrong with Snow however I would recommend the company that actually designed their controllers and that is Labonte Motorsports. The guys here are nothing short of spectacular in everything they do... expecially in customer service. You call them and speak with a decision maker everytime, usually Dan.

The November 2nd episode of Truck U on the Speed Channel will premier the new Labonte Diesel WI kit. I'll be watching it myself as Labonte is the "skiznit" when it comes to this stuff.

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I run the Labonte WI on my car using a 50/50 distilled water and denatured alcohol mix. For gasers, it increases my octane which helps advance my timing which allows for quicker spool and higher RPM's without detonation. All this prolly won't help a diesel out too much.

What it also does is reduce my inlet air temps. It reduced the temps at WOT by as much as 45 degrees and this is critical.

I always see people using Snow performance on here. Nothing wrong with Snow however I would recommend the company that actually designed their controllers and that is Labonte Motorsports. The guys here are nothing short of spectacular in everything they do... expecially in customer service. You call them and speak with a decision maker everytime, usually Dan.

The November 2nd episode of Truck U on the Speed Channel will premier the new Labonte Diesel WI kit. I'll be watching it myself as Labonte is the "skiznit" when it comes to this stuff.
TRUCK U?? what program is that on? hope i have it in ND

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I use a home made water meth kit. I have a Hobbs switch that uses boost pressure to activate the pump. It comes on at 15 PSI. The pump splits into two nozzles. One is 325 ML per minute and the big one is 675 ML per minute. I only use it for racing at the strip. I dynoed 65.7 HP more with it on, using a 50.50 mix of water/meth. My EGT temp at the strip doesn't go over 1500*F with it on. With it on, I lose 3 tenths and my pyro goes over 1600*F. The snow kit is good for mileage because it comes on gradually as the boost rises. Mine is on 100% at 15 PSI and up.


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I use a home made water meth kit. I have a Hobbs switch that uses boost pressure to activate the pump. It comes on at 15 PSI. The pump splits into two nozzles. One is 325 ML per minute and the big one is 675 ML per minute. I only use it for racing at the strip. I dynoed 65.7 HP more with it on, using a 50.50 mix of water/meth. My EGT temp at the strip doesn't go over 1500*F with it on. With it on, I lose 3 tenths and my pyro goes over 1600*F. The snow kit is good for mileage because it comes on gradually as the boost rises. Mine is on 100% at 15 PSI and up.
that power increase seems about right. i never dynoed mine when i was running it. i had a snow stage 3 kit on there with the controller. i used it for boost only, with the controller i had it was boost or egts, i had it on its highest setting, it would kick in at 20pounds. added a little kick to the truck. you really couldnt feel anything. but i did see a small drop in egts too.

for the cost of meth and using it on the streets even its a great product. i switched to nitrous and would never go back. i just like what you can do what the bottle vs meth. cost is about 80% more but hey i dont use it on the streets or anything. for what i use it for its fun.

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