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New Turbo Install...What else to do?

So I am about to put a new turbo on my 06. I ordered a Barder Stg2 after a little research and I hope it works out. For all of you that have upgraded turbos, is there anything else I should do while I am in there? My truck is basically stock, but want to make sure I do it right. Are there any other parts I can upgrade while in there? I want to make sure that if I spend the time and money on an a turbo, I spend the time and money on any other parts that make it more beneficial.

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I am looking at you sig and don't see ARP???
or a monitor???
Not sure if the turbo is a good investment right now...

If you had the ARP head studs and a Live wire or edge monitor or scan gauge II then the next thing would be getting the right tune and maybe injectors.?.?.?

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I monitor with SGII. On my end with monitoring, all appears well. I may not be studded but my truck just got back from the shop too and all was well with the stock setup...according to Ford. (Had unison ring failure and pan seal leakage. They pulled the motor and also tested all the major failure components as well.) I am going to shoot for better than stock, but retain daily driver. My work car limits the miles I put on my truck. I am still under factory warranty so I figured I would test a few things out. If no good, go back to stock. I know eventually I will need to do studs and gaskets and so on, but I will just wait for the day to come...hopefully by then I will have won the lottery and it won't matter. Tunes are also in work for the addition of a turbo.

2006 F-350 CCSB Lariat 6.0L
3in DP to 4in straight pipe
Barder Stg 2
FICMREPAIR w/Atlas 40
SCT X3
Blue Spring
DieselSite Coolant Filtration
ScanGuage II
Otherwise stock

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3in DP to 5in straight pipe
Tymar Intake
IDM Mod
3in1 Gauges- Boost, EGT, Trans Temp
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If you've got a monitor and the health of your truck is in check then I wouldn't worry about your decision. With tunes written for that turbo they should be able to keep any determental from happening, but in turn you won't be able to take full of advantage of it either. I've been running tunes for 50k and my turbo for several thousand without studs. As far as what else you should do, what's your budget? A FICM tune will help you down blow with that turbo and is relatively cheap. Out of curiousity did you have turn your stock turbo in for a core?



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I am looking at you sig and don't see ARP???
or a monitor???
Not sure if the turbo is a good investment right now...

If you had the ARP head studs and a Live wire or edge monitor or scan gauge II then the next thing would be getting the right tune and maybe injectors.?.?.?
A turbo alone doesn't play into the need for upgrading the stock bolts. I have almost 60k miles on a full fuel race tune on stock bolts, the last 20+k with some form of Powermax turbo or euqivelent.
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If you've got a monitor and the health of your truck is in check then I wouldn't worry about your decision. With tunes written for that turbo they should be able to keep any determental from happening, but in turn you won't be able to take full of advantage of it either. I've been running tunes for 50k and my turbo for several thousand without studs. As far as what else you should do, what's your budget? A FICM tune will help you down blow with that turbo and is relatively cheap. Out of curiousity did you have turn your stock turbo in for a core?
The Barder turbos are not made from a stock turbo, so no core. They are made from new Powermax's. Your stock turbo could be sold to offset some of the cost.
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So I am about to put a new turbo on my 06. I ordered a Barder Stg2 after a little research and I hope it works out. For all of you that have upgraded turbos, is there anything else I should do while I am in there? My truck is basically stock, but want to make sure I do it right. Are there any other parts I can upgrade while in there? I want to make sure that if I spend the time and money on an a turbo, I spend the time and money on any other parts that make it more beneficial.

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If you mean in general, an SCT tuner would be a good place to start although that would void your warranty in most cases. I would have actually done that before the turbo.

Other than that there's not really anything to modify for performance or reliability at that depth with the exception of the cold air intake. Most people don't bother with that on a close to stock truck though.

Now if you wanted to go just a little deeper, I would seriously think about deleting the EGR, although that again will void your warranty.
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Can't believe everyone forgot the obvious..... OEM parts that have been upgraded...

Hard Oil turbo feed line.

Turbo Drain Tube.

The hard turbo line will come with a new gasket too.

Hard CAC cold air tube - replaces the black plastic one.

Be extra careful with the ears on the controller connector.

Lessons Leaned....

Leave out the back bolt.

Use ratcheting box end wrenches.

Tighten turbo to down pipe first, loosen up pipes to manifold and tighten them last..

Take out the air filter all the way to turbo flex boot as one piece, also makes putting it back in easier.

Others will chine in shortly... with more.

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Thanks for the replies. No core with Barder as stated above by wldhrse. The SCT will be added with/for the turbo. Thanks angus, I'll throw those parts on the to do list as well. I was thinking along those lines. Any OEM upgrades or "should do" while in there. Budget is tight, trying to buy a house as well. Again thanks for the replies y'all!
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Can't believe everyone forgot the obvious..... OEM parts that have been upgraded...

Hard Oil turbo feed line.

Turbo Drain Tube.

The hard turbo line will come with a new gasket too.

Hard CAC cold air tube - replaces the black plastic one.

Be extra careful with the ears on the controller connector.

Lessons Leaned....

Leave out the back bolt.

Use ratcheting box end wrenches.

Tighten turbo to down pipe first, loosen up pipes to manifold and tighten them last..

Take out the air filter all the way to turbo flex boot as one piece, also makes putting it back in easier.

Others will chine in shortly... with more.

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Power Stroke Manual's PDF
Power Stroke Doctor
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Write Up: Monitoring the 6.0L PSD.
Temperature Readings and Alarm Set's for Monitor's
Write Up: Power Potential of the 6.0L PSD

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