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post #1 of 26 Old 10-28-2013, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
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Injector/ turbo questions, recommendations.

Hey guys,
I've been reading like mad on here, and I have a few questions about aftermarket turbos and injectors. I am new to the 6.0 aftermarket world, but by no means new to the 6.0 world. As I mentioned in my intro, I have worked on 6.0 engines for quite sometime but that was at the dealer, and working on stock motors.
Anyway, in the next 2 weeks or so, im doing the arp head studs, new head gaskets, egr delete, oil cooler, zerex red coolant swap, hpop oil fittings, blue spring upgrade, upgraded turbo oil drain, upgraded dummy plugs, stand pipes, etc. I'm waiting for the coolant filter, new coolant resorvoir, and a few other parts to show up before I dive in.

I am looking for some recommendations on what brands of after market turbos you have had good luck with, and what injectors you have paired them with. I'm still a bit confused about the numbers that are listed with injectors and what they mean. All of the high performance motors I have done before were gas motors with injectors rated in lbs, I'm kinda confused with ratings like 175/55 for example.

The truck so far has a 4 inch turbo back mbrp exhaust with no cat and no muffler, and all metal boost pipes under the hood.

I've been looking at warren diesel injectors, and either a power max turbo, of a mtw one.

Sorry if my questions sound stupid but I'm trying to get as much info as I can before I do all the work. I plan on using an sct tuner, getting the ficm tuned, and the tranny fully built pretty much at the same time along with the full brake upgrade setup, and most likely a 4 or 6 inch pro comp stage 2 lift kit.

Btw my truck is an 05 f350 crew cab, long bed 4x4 6.0 diesel.

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Hey Andy, where n so cal are you? Who's gonna do the work?
I say get some warren 175/30 with a Barder stage 2 or if your not gonna tow go with some 175/75 with a Barder stage 3 turbo, that's a killer setup hands down

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Hey Andy, where n so cal are you? Who's gonna do the work?
I say get some warren 175/30 with a Barder stage 2 or if your not gonna tow go with some 175/75 with a Barder stage 3 turbo, that's a killer setup hands down
Good stuff right there.^^^^^

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You will never get 1.21 gigawatts without a ported intake manifold.


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You will never get 1.21 gigawatts without a ported intake manifold.
Thats funny right there. ..
True. ...and funny!
My 175/30 with a Barder stg2 is an excellent combo.. I highly reccomend!!

with a ported intake also.. of course!! Lol

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I always have to give the disclaimer about making sure you have everything else done before you look into big hp parts... It sound like you have a good start but I did not see anything about gauges, pyrometer, fuel pressure gauge,


To answer your question about sizes...

The first numbers like 155 175 190 205 etc... that is the amount of fuel that the injector body can hold. This would determine the maximum amount of fuel possible to be injectored

The second number like stock 30 50 75 100 etc... that is the nozzles size. It determines how fast the fuel gets dumped. The faster the fuel dumps the higher your temps and smokier the truck... but if you want to be able to dump all the fuel of those large injectors (especially at high rpms) you need larger nozzles. But if you make the nozzles larger it will also dump more fuel than wanted when doing things like towing heavy but if you want to make bigger power you need bigger nozzles.

Think of it like a syringe. 175 is how much fluid fits in the syringe and 30 would be the gauge of the needle.


Lately I have been thinking more and more that 155s is such a modest upgrade I would skip them unless you are wanting to stay close to stock.


175/stock = best bang for your buck in power
175/30 = good power and towing ability
175/75 = lots o power, smoke, and egts (hard to tow heavy)
190s+ will needs lots of other supporting mods


In my opinion the pmax and stage 1 turbos are a little too small for 175s
I would go with a stage 2 turbo if you tow heavy
I would go with a stage 3 turbo if you want mucho power!!!

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I always have to give the disclaimer about making sure you have everything else done before you look into big hp parts... It sound like you have a good start but I did not see anything about gauges, pyrometer, fuel pressure gauge,....
Have you gotten an actual boost gauge yet so you can see what your turbo is actually doing vice pegging the MAP sensor?? Just sayin... :

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Have you gotten an actual boost gauge yet so you can see what your turbo is actually doing vice pegging the MAP sensor?? Just sayin... :
Nope... my turbo just never goes above 33psi

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Nope... my turbo just never goes above 33psi
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