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post #1 of 18 Old 10-01-2013, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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Sct programer with no head studs??

I was looking into buying an sct programmer or a banks system... DO NOT HAVE HEAD STUDS. But I heard of lots of 6.0 guys running this on exstream with no studs and never having a problem... Do you recomend this? As long as I'm not towing a 20000 lb trailer will it be fine? Looking for input! I don't have the money for headstuds at te moment but I would feel much safer with them... WANT YOUR INPUT PLEASE!!
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Get a monitor if you dont already have one. This will allow you to make sure your truck is healthy before tuning. When you order a tune, the tuner will ask if you are studded or not and write the tune accordingly. One thing to keep in mind when tuning a stock truck......if there is ANYTHING wrong mechanically it will show itself when the truck is tuned!

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While there are "head bolt safe" tunes, keep in mind a stock truck can experience head gasket or EGR failures. I personally would only tune the truck if you either have the cash to fix it or have another vehicle to drive in the event of a problem. I had studs and still blew the even side gasket by cyl 2. Part of the problem was that the cylinder heads were out of spec.

Regardless if you do/do not program your truck you really should invest in a monitor and/or gauges. If you're tuned I also highly recommend fuel pressure and pyrometer.

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I'm running an SCT X3 with multiple tunes and FICM tuning and still on stock head bolts. There are various tuners out there that will all work with you, you just have to specify if you want a tow, extreme or street tune etc. Just make sure when you have a tune written to specify you are non studded.

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I am running a tune from innovative diesel with a sct tuner, with stock head bolts at the moment, and I'm experiencing no problems..just remember, don't go super hardcore with it, just get a good street tune and you should be fine. And with the EGR stuff, in my opinion if you don't have to do emissions then get rid of that junk. Just my .02 brother.


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THANKYOU guys for your input, some sct programers come with pre tunes already loaded in them, for a banks system, the one I am looking at comes with a palm and already tells you most temps and egt readings and what not, would this be fine to run for gauges or would I also have to add?
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I woudnlt run pre-programmed tunes wit or without studs! Get an SCT WITH custom tunes and don't drive it like you stole it every single day... You should be fine, took mine almost three years and I drove the crap outa the truck the whole time. Egr cooler went causing the head gaskets to go... Monitoring closer could have prevented my head gasket failure.

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I've always leaned more tword sct anyways, I'm looking at the livewire... Is this any good or is anyone running it?
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