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Rancho's dual steering stabilizer

Im currently running Rancho 9000ís all the way around. They were on the truck when I bought it and have never played with the adjustments til recently. Ive found that, empty, 1 is the best setting for the rears and loaded for bear 5 setting performs nicely. I have never felt the need to go to 9. As far as the fronts, they were always set at 5 but started to turn them down as the road condition worsen around here and the construction zones increase. Although turning down for the nicer ride has definately increased the death wobble or bump steer so now its time to upgrade the OEM stabilizer. The truck has 3" springs and what equates to 33" Toyo Open Country M/T's. I'm looking at Rancho's kit RS98509. I know I'm probably gonna get some feedback to go with Bilstein, and I have no problem with that brand but I'd like to match the rest of the shocks.
1) Looking for feedback and reviews of this kit
2) is this part number a complete kit? It is as far as i can tell, but looking for feedback on that as well
It looks as though the kit is stacked... Do they offer an end to end set up?
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It looks like your kit comes with everything you'd need. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAN-RS98509

If you have any intention on going with bigger tires, I'd seriously consider hydraulic assist. Even with my old 35's on factory offset rims, it would occasionally have trouble turning the tires at a dead stop. Now on 37" boggers on deeper offset wheels, its noticably more difficult and more frequent to turn the tires. PSC makes a hydraulic assist steering kit for our super duties that's about 600 bucks. You ship em your steering gear box and they rebuild it, and modify it (drill and tap) for fittings for hydro assist, comes with the steering ram, and all the lines and fittings you need. You can steer with one finger at idle at a dead stop, and it acts as a steering stabilizer too. I think Robb, jetjock has hydro assist, not sure what brand. Its high on my list as soon as my trans is back.

On another note...if you're getting death wobble there's likely other issues like alignment, or worn steering components. I've had lots of lifted vehicles, jeep on 35 boggers, Cherokee on 33's, straight axle Toyota on 37's, bronco on 38's and 44 boggers, battled death wobble with all of em, well versed in all things death wobble. You probably need more negative caster, a hair more camber wouldn't hurt either. Adding an extra degree of negative caster (rearward tilt of the steering axis) can go a long way, but odds are there are some things that are worn out, even if only a little. The hydro assist will help hide it, as can extra castor, but you'll still wear the tires poorly if you have worn tie rod ends, or ball joints, drag link, track bar (which is often the culprit with death wobble, the track bar, or at least the bushings or rod end). Good luck. I feel your pain with crappy roads, despite the name of this area, 'Hampton Roads' we have some pretty crappy roads.


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Thanks Gearhead. First of all i'd like to compliment you on your machining write ups. Next year when I wamt to do my heads and studs, I'd like to get together with you for a set of heads. I have friends in VA Beach and visit there from time to time.
But i digress... Further investigation into that kit, i did find it was a complete kit. However, it appears as though, if there is no aftermarket lift, then you will need their U bolt kit so the bracket for the second stabilizer on the drivers side jas somewhere to mount. The truck already has three inch springs on and aftermarket U bolts so I'm covered.
The biggest i'd prob go on tires is 35" but that wont be for a couple of years. The death wobble i am experiencing isn't horrible, thats why I would almost refer to it as a slight bump steer, and it only becomes more noticable wih the lower shock settings. So i think any upgrade from OEM would most likely cure it. All steering components are good, truck just went through state inspection and in PA that stuff is checked. Yes the shop is good, they are the local 4X4 gurus and the guy builds monster truck frames on the side. Have you ever seen the truck Backdraft? He built that one.
My other question about how they are mounted. The kit advertises as parrallel mount which I took as stacked but reading their instructions it is an end to end kit. I went ahead and ordered it anyway, found it on ebay for 150 w free shipping.
As far as the hydo assist. Ive come to accept the stand still steering for what it is. It doesnt bother me and that 600 buck would be much rather invested in the engine first.
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Will the gearbox rebuild help with steering wheel play? I think mine has gotten worse over the past year.


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Will the gearbox rebuild help with steering wheel play? I think mine has gotten worse over the past year.
I would think so. But as Gearhead stated earlier, make sure all of your other steering components are in good shape i.e. Ball joints, tie rod ends, all the usual suspects. The gearbox rebuild would be a waste of time of you've got other worn components

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I've got a good amount of slop in the steering wheel, but no death wobble of any kind, so I'm sure the rebuild of the steering box would fix the slop.


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Are these dual kits mostly for people running bigger tires or will it also benefit people with the stock tire size?


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It'll help hide worn out suspension and steering component symptoms on a stock truck. Bigger tires even on factory rims do OK, its the deep offset rims that really compound things.


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Rebuilding steering box will help very little, or none at all, with slop or looseness in the box. Buying a rebuilt box is a crapshoot at best, usually resulting in getting a box with more play than you had. I've installed many over the years at my shop, used to cringe every time I did it. It takes a specialty builder like Red Head steering gear or Benchworks steering to build a "tight" box with good feel. Now I will use nothing else. I use Benchworks steering (they are local to me in Phoenix) and the difference is night and day over the usual rebuild.

Hard to convince somebody who hasn't felt the difference, but once you know....


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