Super Zoodad Ram Air, tell me what you think?

[dkuhne]

Any luck hooking up with a vendor?

[npccpartsman]

The benefits of the zoodad mod have been discussed and hashed to death for years. It will definitely lower IAT temps to a small degree, but on a forced induction engine you're not gaining anything in terms of "ram air", even with a funnel shaped opening. FWIW--ram air is approximately 5% efficient at 200mph on a dragster. Why do you think the Nascar boys have their intakes open to the windshield instead of the front? Not to bust your bubble, but it's a sales pitch and dyno numbers don't mean squat on the street.

[ozx3+1]

Originally Posted by npccpartsman

The benefits of the zoodad mod have been discussed and hashed to death for years. It will definitely lower IAT temps to a small degree, but on a forced induction engine you're not gaining anything in terms of "ram air", even with a funnel shaped opening. FWIW--ram air is approximately 5% efficient at 200mph on a dragster. Why do you think the Nascar boys have their intakes open to the windshield instead of the front? Not to bust your bubble, but it's a sales pitch and dyno numbers don't mean squat on the street.

You know, Tim... After being railroaded on this thread a time or two already (hear it goes again) I'm reasonably sure that folks just want one because it's slick looking... Me? I like my home-brew plastic job just fine

[npccpartsman]

I know Oz, but you know I tell it like it is. I guess I learned that from FTE. I just hate to see people waste their money on unnecessary BS, but everyone has a different situation.

I read somewhere you're not happy with your "new" ride. Sorry to hear that. Get a hold of Scuffy828. He can diagnose a 6.0 with the best, cause he IS the best.

[ozx3+1]

Originally Posted by npccpartsman

I know Oz, but you know I tell it like it is. I guess I learned that from FTE. I just hate to see people waste their money on unnecessary BS, but everyone has a different situation.

I read somewhere you're not happy with your "new" ride. Sorry to hear that. Get a hold of Scuffy828. He can diagnose a 6.0 with the best, cause he IS the best.

Tim-
No, my ride is sweet! I couldn't be happier with it. Don't know where the negative rumor came from... I'll keep Scuffy828 in the data-bank for future use (if required) but everything other than fuel prices is as good as gold right now.
To mitigate fuel prices, I just ride the train to work on the days I don't need to go anywhere else... $5.00/day for a round trip train ride, or $25.00/day for fuel... Easy math!

Thanks for the thought-
Brian

[InnovativeDiesel]

One thing to consider, the ram air design isn't necessarily for "ramming" air to the motor. Although the name would portray otherwise.

The ram air effect does causes a neglible increase in performance on a naturally aspirated vehicle, but on forced induction the effect is minimal.

The real benefit of a ram air design is the ramming of or forcing of cool air to the intake tract. This is much more noticable on a cooler day, when the engine is being forced dense air rather than the hot engine or heat soaked road air.

This has been proven time and time again, even on forced induction.

[ozx3+1]

Originally Posted by InnovativeDiesel

One thing to consider, the ram air design isn't necessarily for "ramming" air to the motor. Although the name would portray otherwise.

The ram air effect does causes a neglible increase in performance on a naturally aspirated vehicle, but on forced induction the effect is minimal.

The real benefit of a ram air design is the ramming of or forcing of cool air to the intake tract. This is much more noticable on a cooler day, when the engine is being forced dense air rather than the hot engine or heat soaked road air.

This has been proven time and time again, even on forced induction.

That's a fact... All of my trucks have run better at night due to the cooler air. Washing the truck makes it seem to run better too! (that's a feel-good, not fact)

[The Captain]

The "Ram" air title was chosen to depict the nature in witch the scoop functions. In the past the name has been associated with naturally aspirated vehicles for performance increases. in the case of an forced induction motor you are not attempting to "Ram" air as much as you are feeding your turbo more free flowing fresh cold air. It's a lot faster digging a hole with a shovel than a teaspoon. In the case of the Superduty series of trucks the main intake area pulls air right next to the intercooler, radiator and A/C condenser. All of witch are designed to dissipate heat to the surrounding air. it is also forced to pull it through a maze of mounting panels, slowing it down and making it more turbulent. The Zoodad it self helps to give more air, but still pulls warm air from the engine compartment. the scoop not only pulls cold air from the front of the truck, but the larger scoop surface feeds and "RAMS" more air in to your filter box. A definite improvement if you have an upgraded turbo. On top of all that, the cold air will help to cool the intake side of your turbo witch is connected to exhaust side resulting in lower EGT's. Hope that helps anyone with any questions

[Big Tone]

cleared it right up, thanks