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Anyone running with pilot injection lately?

Rotella T6 5w40 here, so I'm pretty confident the injectors can fill fast enough.

Seems like when Ford killed PI, there was a lot of talk about bringing it back in the aftermarket, but little info post '07 or so.

So there it is - anyone running with pilot injection lately? I'm thinking of getting some of Matt's tunes (SRL and Tow8k/TowMax) and wondering if I can get Pilot Injection on in my 2005.
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Most tuners won't do pilot injection. It's hard on the 6.0 injectors from what I've read and heard.

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As near as I can tell, the 'harshness' on the injector stems from the inability of the oil to fill the injector quick enough. I think the T6 synthetic should do well in that regard.

In either case, I hope to hear from people that are running pilot injection still today
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did some research. pilot injection seems to not work well with the 6.0 esp the 03-05 with i believe c9 or cp94 injectors but the newer with the 95 injectors seemed to work better. '

Im not expert but general consensuses; is avoid it.

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I thought the '05+ all got the C95 injector?
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Yes I currently use PI from Eric @ ID on my 05

2003 F350 6.0L KR CCLB DRW 4x4 auto - bone stock
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Ok ....... What is pilot injection?


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read the third post plain and simple explanation:

TheDieselStop.Com Forums: What is pilot injection??

a small squirt with injectors and burn before main injection just quites the injector rattle down.


p.s. your correct i mis-typed 03-04 was bad and 05 and up was good and 08 and up was better. personally with the already sensitive ford injectors use some rbp fuel addative or through like 8oz of tw-c3 ashless two stroke oil in your tank it quites the rattle down and adds a little lubricity to the ultra low solphur diesel these days... i use both like every 3-4th tank

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03 early 04 was the only year that had Ford PI from the factory. Early 04 used a different method with the EGR valve open try to quiet the knock from compression ignition down with out much luck and then changed things around again on newer strats. Unless a tuner adds PI tables back into the strategys they are missing, PI won't work right. With a PI tune in I can hit a drive up with out shutting down which is nice. But the newer LAME FICM tunes from ford do PI no justice either. If your going the PI route look into a good FICM tune first other wise your have a surge when the ECM changes from PI to Single shot at whatever RPM the tune is setup at. PI seems to be really sensitive to FICM tuning. A nice side affect is I notice a small gain in mileage from PI to. Also with my ID performance FICM tune, and PI I have better throttle response and less smoke. But running the ID mild FICM tune with PI I get Surge and stock is worse yet.

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