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Old 08-12-2013, 03:09 PM
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Barder stage 2 review

As many of you, I was in the boat of needing more air to clean up my tunes and injectors that I had installed AND still needed to tow loads of 7K+. I have been reading a lot about the Powermax turbos and the MTW turbos and was not really sold on one or the other. The reviews were kind of mixed and I was wanting something that was not going to perform out of the box and need a lot of tweaking constantly to get it to work. I came across Jame Barder and his turbo rebuilding skills. After a few chats with him I was sold on him rebuilding my turbo. I liked that he balanced the turbo and he had a short turn around time. So I took the plunge and sent him my turbo to be upgraded to the stage 2. Turn around was going to be 2-3 days which for me was nice after reading about the other turbo rebuilds taking a few months which in my eyes is no way to keep business or even get new business. I sent James my turbo to be fitted with a 64.7mm wheel and being I already had an 03 turbo the price would be cheaper cause he could machine my existing housing to fit the larger wheel. My first run I blew off the boot after the turbo, so I put it back on and tried again, it blew off again. I ordered some from Riff Raff boots and I will be putting them on very soon. OK enough of the back story on to the review.

I put the turbo on and instantly noticed a huge whooshing noise coming from under the hood that I never had before, this thing really sucks in some air! I noticed at 70mm my egts are about 100 degrees cooler, but where this thing really shines is at WOT. I am running 155/30 injectors from Warren. With the stock turbo with a BatMoWheel I could bury the egts, now with the Barder turbo I have seen a max of 1200-1300 degrees with my Extreme Street tune from Eric at IDP. Cruising around the street I see about 4-5 pounds of boost, before I was at 9-10 pounds. I bought this turbo to keep my EGT's down when I pull my camper, I have not pulled with it yet but I will next Friday. From a stop, mashing the pedal I get a puff of black smoke and then I'm off like a rocket with minimal smoke to a light haze on my Extreme Street tune. It seems that every time I drive it the manners are better than before and feels like it settling down into a groove. I think this will be a great towing turbo even on the Exteme race tune.
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:30 PM
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I am stoked... mine will ship tomorrow. . Glad it is working GREAT for you.
James seems like a great guy and you can not beat his turn around.
From another vendor I had to wait 4 months for a replacement turbo and when that one finally showed it was bad.. it took so long to get.... they forgot my address??? Really?

Good luck and keep us posted!!
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:13 PM
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Sure is a lot of success coming out of Barder's shop lately. Awesome to hear. Really looking forward to hearing how this turbo works out for you Aron.
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Nice this will be a good test keep us posted.

Bondajb do you have larger injectors? I know you were talking about them at one point but didn't see any in your sig. Just curious
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How much weight will you be towing?
Are the tune you running for the stg2 or other?
I have to find a turbo that lives up to its claims before I add more fuel.. 175/30 casserly's are the plan
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:22 PM
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How much weight will you be towing?
Are the tune you running for the stg2 or other?
I have to find a turbo that lives up to its claims before I add more fuel.. 175/30 casserly's are the plan
Ya that's my plan or 175 stock. For the gain in HP I don't know if its worth it in the cost for nozzles. Derail over, back to the turbo talk lol

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Looks like im not the only one loving their BTS Stage 2. I wouldn't be scared to tow max weight with mine. I think the turbo will only shine more as the load increases.
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Ya that's my plan or 175 stock. For the gain in HP I don't know if its worth it in the cost for nozzles. Derail over, back to the turbo talk lol

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This whole game isn't worth the cost.. my hopes are with this turbo they will work well. They should be able to run the same as the OP's but with a bit more if wanted/needed
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What is the specs on the stage 2? Is it just a bigger compressor wheel?
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64.7mm single plane compressor wheel with a 10 blade turbine wheel
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