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reliable place for 6.0 cylinder heads?

Yes I used reliable and 6.0 heads in the same sentence.

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We may have a winner.

I called them at 8am today and a nice guy named Mike answered. I proceeded to bombard him with questions. I got a lot of info so please excuse me if some is not 100% accurate.

Here is the skinny. $1850 (+shipping)for a pair of remans by them $700core.

He said they do 3-5 pair a week.

They do it all for the 6.0 heads, minus porting. They just have not had the time or demand to dabble with it, to know if it is worth it...yet.

They install their own valve guides and seats. He said they have some one else make them for them at 2000 piece batch orders. I feel like he told me they are made for them only.

How 'bout this...They also install full injector cups in the ones prone to cracking where the fuel gets into the coolant. So down the road if it does crack you should not get fuel in the coolant.

Double how 'bout this...They also cut o-rings and press wire in the grooves. I do not remember the thousands of protrusion in the end, but they have been doing this from day one and have had no issues thus far. You can get the heads with out the o-rings if you want, but there is a reason they are standard. These are not fire rings. He said fire rings are not good for daily driver reliability, maybe 100psi applications. He said after ten years Fire rings still keep changing the instructions.

Warranty? He said I do not know, I'll have to look that up. The only two warranty issues he knows of involved "walking"/"bent" valve stem?? He thinks the head was damaged between their shop and install. Not that this is the reason those heads had problems, but he said they were both self installers, not a shop used to installing heads. He thinks they may have been dropped.

He reiterated everything I have heard about ford remans with regard to poor finish machining and hardened seats cracking and so on. He said even cummins heads new, have "not the greatest" finishes either.


My 6.0 I just picked up this year has 150k miles has fuel in the coolant and pressure in the degas, no loss of coolant though. I was going to get a reman long block due to costs and the lack of perceived "reputable" or "reliable" cylinder head vendors out there and several other reasons not important hear, but.... I have to say I am considering going with this outfit now. I probably will wait to make my ultimate decision till after I pull the heads off and see how the bottom end looks.

Mike and crew are to busy to be current on the forums, I received his permission to divulge all our conversation on this forum. He did express concern about these Chinese castings stepping on the market. I gave him a brief on what I have read in the last six months regarding these anchors and the customer service (or lack off) clearwater has been providing. I think he feels better.

Anyone have any experiences with this outfit?

I'm sure peeps have had good luck with other head vendors out there, if you think you know of one that offers near what this company does for the price feel free to add, otherwise...

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I will throw out there that this is the shop that does the o-ring heads sold by Liberator Diesel. They have an outstanding reputation and I wouldn't hesitate to put a set of their heads on if I needed heads. It helps that they are less than 2 hrs from me as well.
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I have a buddy who has been running these o-ringed heads on his for around 5 years give or take with no issues.
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This may be the place I look to get me a set of heads from when I build me a motor here in the next year or so.

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I have a buddy who has been running these o-ringed heads on his for around 5 years give or take with no issues.
Not to hijack but do you know if they sell 6.4 heads?

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Not to hijack but do you know if they sell 6.4 heads?
not sure give them a shout.

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Beans stage 1 injectors, Beans 6 position chip
Dieselsite ww2, boost fooler, wastegate controller
gauges, upgraded up pipes,
afe intake, 4" flow through muf w/turn out
BTS transmission, 6.0 cuuuler
35"toyo mt on 18" black kmc addicts

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Not to hijack but do you know if they sell 6.4 heads?
Not 100 % sure but I don't see why they wouldn't. They do Cummins as well.
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I will throw out there that this is the shop that does the o-ring heads sold by Liberator Diesel. They have an outstanding reputation and I wouldn't hesitate to put a set of their heads on if I needed heads. It helps that they are less than 2 hrs from me as well.
Just spoke with Liberator..

Interestingly they also offer NEW castings made in the U.S. they are castings for ford that they have machined to their specs. $3k

He made sure to let me know they were not the Chinese noodle heads!

01 F-350 reg cab srw 7.3
Important stuff:
Beans stage 1 injectors, Beans 6 position chip
Dieselsite ww2, boost fooler, wastegate controller
gauges, upgraded up pipes,
afe intake, 4" flow through muf w/turn out
BTS transmission, 6.0 cuuuler
35"toyo mt on 18" black kmc addicts

06 F-350 cc srw 6.0 lariat
build being planned...starting with the cab off
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RCD I believe has some new 6.0 heads too if they haven't sold out of them, call and ask for Jared.
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Chinese noodle heads Thats some funny chit !! but for the record I would not buy the china ones.
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