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Hilly areas, towing every weekend need more power

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I've got a question here. I have an 05 dually 4.10 that is a manual and need to get more power out of 1st gear without having to go into low. (I hate shifting from low to first gear when on a hill stopped either for traffic or a light) Does anyone have any suggestions? I have the gambit of the bullet proofing procedure: Head Studs, EGR Delete, Blue Spring, New Oil Cooler, Exhaust, FICM, Fuel Pressure Regulator and a few other things I can't think of off the top of my head. Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the response in 1st gear? I regularly tow 10k. I live in western PA and hills and sudden extremely steep grades are all over the place.

First picture is of the truck and trailer, 2nd picture is my son trying to drive it
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Have you tried any tunes for some more power?? I would think a nice 50-60hp Tow Tune ought to help get you what you are looking for.

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Have you tried any tunes for some more power?? I would think a nice 50-60hp Tow Tune ought to help get you what you are looking for.
I have not done this yet, however have been looking at the livewire

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I just got back from towing my new to me trailer to Oregon. I think I was close to 9k. I am running Matt's 8k tow tune. It did great and kept the EGTs under 1200 for most of the trip. That being said I do have an automatic so I don't know if it makes a difference with you having a manual trans.

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You need something that will give you more torque from idle. I also have a 6 speed, but with 4.30s and I find myself starting in Low sometimes. That being said, maybe a ficm tune ( or a different one) or maybe even a 58v ficm. The dyno sheets I've seen on 58v ficms compared to 48v ones had moved the power curve to a lower rpm. All that being said, when I'm on a hill (from a full stop) I almost always start in low, just for my clutches sake
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Just an input on a tune and egt's... I towed a 5th wheel 10,100 lbs dry with stock intake, delete pipes, and Innovative diesel STREET tune and my egt's never passed 1,400*F. auto trans.
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i have read that the first gear in the manuals were geared to high before... I would not do an atlas 80 or atlas40 ficm tune because your stock exhaust will raise egts too much while towing... the ficm tuns burn fuel longer and have a warning in regards to towing and needing to monitor egts more.

sct tuner with a tow tune would be good start. and a higher flowing exhaust would help. I noticed after muffler delete my turbo spooled up quicker at lower rpms.

If you tow often an egt gauge or pyrometer often called would be a great tool but not much help with 1rst gear issue.

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Thanks for the suggestions, I do have a pyro meter and keep my EGTs under 1100 when towing (sometimes takes a bit longer to get there, however it might be worth it in the life of the engine.)

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I would agree on the SCT and a decent tow tune to help you out. A free flowing exhaust can't hurt things either.
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