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AFE Stage 2 Si 54-81022....114 lbs?????

Now I know that must of yall (myself included) know that the stock air box is good up to around 500 hp but this AFE CAI for 300 bone says it gains 19hp and 114 lbs x ft!!!!! Is anyone running this or has anyone see any dyno sheet (not from AFE) that can support those numbers? Iíll tell yall what, for the avg. guy like myself who does not want to tear apart their truck and dump very large amounts of money into their truck to get good performance....this looks pretty sweet.
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I run one. Its not 114 lbs thats for sure. I can believe the 19hp. The gains were pretty comparable to my atlas 40 ficm tune
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Its just a typo, I'm sure they meant 14 ft lbs.
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Now I know that must of yall (myself included) know that the stock air box is good up to around 500 hp but this AFE CAI for 300 bone says it gains 19hp and 114 lbs x ft!!!!! Is anyone running this or has anyone see any dyno sheet (not from AFE) that can support those numbers? Iíll tell yall what, for the avg. guy like myself who does not want to tear apart their truck and dump very large amounts of money into their truck to get good performance....this looks pretty sweet.
I'm still waiting on my 114ft/lbs to kick in. I really didn't notice any difference when I put mine on except that my turbo bark got loud.
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Its just a typo, I'm sure they meant 14 ft lbs.
You might be right but all the diesel performance online store say the same thing. Well thanks all for the replies. Don't think I'm going to buy one just yet.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:42 PM
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Don't most performance gains give you roughly twice the tq compared to hp? I know it's not always true, but to only increase 19hp and 14ft. lbs... Usually don't they tell you the highest difference in peak numbers but instead compare the power curves leading up to peak numbers....

Example: Meaning max torque might go up 50ft lbs but at 1800 rpms the power curve starts earlier essentially making 114ft lbs of torque over the stock power curve, just not at the peak of the torque curve. Hopefully this makes sense.

Another example: stock 1500 rpms=400 ft lbs after upgrade 1500rpms=550 ft lbs these numbers are nowhere near peak but when compared side by side it's easy to state 150 ft lbs more were achieved. think it's misleading and I'm surprised some companies get away with this.
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You might be right but all the diesel performance online store say the same thing. Well thanks all for the replies. Don't think I'm going to buy one just yet.
Thats because if its AFE's typo then its going to be in all their data and product info files that dealers get too. When that info is loaded onto the retailers site its the info they/we get from that manufacture. We nor other shops are supposed to rewrite or deviate from how the manufacture wrote their description. How ever if we happen to catch a typo or spelling error we usually correct it. But when your loading 10's of thousands of product sku's at a time its really rare that you will catch any.
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From what I've seen when more air is added without adding fuel too, HP goes up but TQ either stays the same or drops.
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It could also have been on a heavily modified truck if you put a stock air box on a 800 hp truck then Put the afe on I would expect a big gain. I did notice some power with mine but not much and a lot better throttle responce and better mileage 1-2 mpg's
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