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post #1 of 19 Old 05-15-2013, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Stage1 compair to Powermax

There has been people asking what is the difference between the stage 1 and Powermax, some have said the Powermax is just as good, others have stated that the stage 1 is better. I have said that the stage 1 flows more air, but I thought I would just show you the difference between the two. I took video of the two side by side and you know what they say a picture(video) is worth a thousand words. I described both and the differences, I also put air to both same pressure, and you can decide for yourself. Now the stage 1 comes standard with the billet wheel, and the powermax was shown with it's standard wheel. The billet wheel in the stage 1 is a drop in for the powermax., the stage 1 has a 13 blade turbine wheel which makes spool faster and throttle response better than the powermax even with same billet wheel. I didn't do anything special to make the stage 1 out shine, same air pressure. Thanks and enjoy

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Man I LOVE the howl that the new billet wheel makes.

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LMAO....it sounds different due to the difference in compressor blade design. PLEASE explain how that means it flows more. After adding the single plane to my Pmax I have the same sound from the compressor side.


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He was comparing a factory built powermax to his stage 1. Obviously the SAME billet wheel will flow the same BUT the powermax will not spool as fast or as hard as the stage 1 due to the fact it has a 10 blade turbine and no turbine housing tweaks.

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how about putting air pressure to the hot side. after all that is what actually spools the turbo. can you make a contraption to show that?

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LMAO....it sounds different due to the difference in compressor blade design. PLEASE explain how that means it flows more. After adding the single plane to my Pmax I have the same sound from the compressor side.
LMAO... you don't read to well, I stated that both turbos are in stock form, also the older cast wheel version also did the same. You don't seem to understand is that the design of the wheel makes a huge difference on spool and flow, also the turbine wheel blade count also has a big difference. The turbine is what makes the stage 1 better than the powermax, spool, lag, and throttle response. I have said it before can a powermax flow better a high rpm with same compressor wheel? yes at what rpm about 6300-7000, where a diesel won't run, same with the dual wheel design for the compressor to get the same flow as the single design it would have to get into higher rpm.

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how about putting air pressure to the hot side. after all that is what actually spools the turbo. can you make a contraption to show that?
Yes I'm working on something now on, trying to get a leaf blower to act as drive pressure to act as the exhaust, the air won't be heated but it will give a base line if used the same on different turbos. I will have a hard time to get things exact due to need a oil supply to keep bearings in a journal to stay centered.

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