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Modest turbo upgrade, etc.

It is time to get head studs and a minor buildup on my 2006 F350 CCSB.


This truck's primary use is daily driving, around 5300ft MSL, always loaded with ~300 lbs of recovery gear and survival essentials, and ~400 lbs of front bumper/winch. Secondary uses are weekend trips in the mountains for (no trailer) camping, and occasional towing 10-12K lbs with the factory receiver. It has 3.73 axles and 35x12.5-18 tires on stock XLT rims.

My objectives for the buildup are: maximum reliability and longevity first, and a little more power (~400 bhp) second. I want little or no smoke, and reasonable EGTs while towing.

Just to be clear, I have no interest in power above 400-425 bhp on this rig. So this is not just the first step in an incremental build up to 600+ bhp.

Current upgrades:
AFE Stage 2 intake system (filter, tube, elbow)
4" turbo-back w/ aftermarket cat (looks like Magnaflow), dual tails
OEM metal CAC cold tube
Current OEM HPO and turbo oil updates
Edge CTS w/ pyro probe

Upgrades I'm considering for the buildup:
BPD EGR cooler & EDE sneaky pipe
BPD oil cooler w/ OEM filter, cold weather kit
BPD FICM, 6-phase
CCV kit (to keep oil out of the intake)
SCT SF3/X3 & custom tunes
Banks Techni-Cooler #25975
Garrett GT3788VA

EGR will be disabled by EDE sneaky pipe and blockoff plate, to maintain OEM appearance and possibility to restore EGR function, if necessary.

I'm not sure about the GT3788VA turbo. I want to run stock injectors, if reasonable, considering my power objective. To me, the whole point of a turbo upgrade is performance improvement with the least impact on overall reliability and longevity. But I've heard that that turbo may not be well suited to stock injectors at my altitude (5300ft MSL at home, up to 12K on mountain trips).

Any input from experience with the GT3788VA at high altitude would be appreciated. Maybe I'd be better off keeping the stock turbo?

Thanks for any and all suggestions and advice.

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I've never ran that turbo so I can't speak for it. However, for the power level your looking at I would stick with the stock turbo and save the money. If anything you might look into an aftermarket billet wheel for the stock turbo if EGT's become an issue while towing.



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Yeah I agree with Brian here. As long as your OEM turbo is still good just go with a new drop in billet compressor wheel.

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Agree with both of the above. Stock turbo and stock injectors plus a good custom tune will put you a touch over 400 rwhp.

The rest of the build looks good.

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Are you wanting to tow at 400hp? If so, that's a little different ball game. If you just want 400 to run around with, a simple max effort(race) tune will do it.

Save the money and make your own sneaky pipe, a $.50 slug and a welder will make the same thing.

Just leave the turbo alone if its still in good shape, clean it when you remove it though. The pmax isn't anything special, it just has an ear splitting whistle, plus a little more lag. A new comp wheel will give you a little more flow, is it worth the money, only if you really want it.

Skip the intercooler unless yours is busted, the same money will buy a ported intake manifold and give better results. Not $1000 dollars worth, but more than the intercooler.

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Hey, guys, thanks for your input and suggestions.

If I keep the OEM turbo, I could get a billet compressor wheel and a ported intake manifold, with the same parts budget. Nice!

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why get bpd egr cooler and block it off? i saw you said to possibly return it to stock, just curious

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Emission testing is unfortunately required in my locale, and some testers are quite picky about the "appears to be functional" visual inspection. A common EGR delete kit would not pass, because the EGR cooler would be conspicuously absent.

In the future, should I need to restore normal EGR function, it will be much easier if I already have a good EGR cooler installed, and all I need to do is remove a simple block-off plate.

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^^^ gotcha, i like it seeing as im in california. where does that block off plate go?

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Why not just use the bpd egr delete and avoid the sneaky pipe


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