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Turbo swap

Just wondering what the advantages/disadvantages are for swapping an 03 turbo into newer trucks. Have seen where some guys are doing that. Also I was wondering why some 6.0 trucks seem to have a lot more whistle out of the exhaust than others. I have a silverline exhaust turbo back but does not have as much whistle as I would like. Didn't know if there was something I could do to make it louder or not. Appreciate any info.

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I just did the swap last Saturday.

So far, I have noticed a slightly quicker spool up, and much smoother spool. And running the same tunes (will be rewritten and track tested this weekend) I have already seen 5#s more boost. The 03 lets a larger volume of air in at the higher RPMs also. Before the swap, I was tuned at no more than 24#s max boost, I am at 29 now, and should see about 34ish when rewritten. I am also studded on my engine.

AND, I get the really cool, and LOUD, jet whistle now as I am straight piped turbo out..

The whistle comes from the exhaust vanes, 10 on an 03, 12 or 13 on an 04, and 15 on the 05s and up.

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Here is a link to a quick vid of my swap, before and after, with a comparision of the turbos. Enjoy!

07 to 03 Turbo Swap

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2007 F250 6.0l King Ranch CC LB
Sponsored by Innovative Diesel Performance
SCT XCal2 w/ Custom Files & FICM tuning
DashDAQ Series II; ARP Headstuds; AFE Stage 2 XP Intake w/ Proguard 7
Industrial Injection 190cc injectors; FASS 150/180; ITP Regulated Return
'03 Turbo Swap; Zex N2O Dry Shot; CFM Smallmouth Intake Elbow
Zoodad w/ Predator Screen; MBRP 4" Cool Duals Straight Piped
EGR Delete w/ full manifold; Coolant Bypass Filter; Train Horns
Eclipse AVN62D; High Idle Mod; BFG ATs 285-65/20s

Truck- 12.51sec @ 108mph @ ~7700lbs (1/4 mi)
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Mines an 04 and I am getting about 36 PSI when the 6 gun is turned up. I had mine straight piped at one time and at higher rpm's it sounded like a big block gas motor. Couldn't handle that crap!!

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Higher boost doesn't always mean more power...my best times were run at a max of 24. That is one of the great things about custom tunes on a SCT. 36#s is pushing the threshold limits.

Eric at Innovative explained to me one night about higher boost vs lower, unfortunalty I cant recall enough of it right now to be thorough on explaining it.

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DashDAQ Series II; ARP Headstuds; AFE Stage 2 XP Intake w/ Proguard 7
Industrial Injection 190cc injectors; FASS 150/180; ITP Regulated Return
'03 Turbo Swap; Zex N2O Dry Shot; CFM Smallmouth Intake Elbow
Zoodad w/ Predator Screen; MBRP 4" Cool Duals Straight Piped
EGR Delete w/ full manifold; Coolant Bypass Filter; Train Horns
Eclipse AVN62D; High Idle Mod; BFG ATs 285-65/20s

Truck- 12.51sec @ 108mph @ ~7700lbs (1/4 mi)
Cooler- 39.93sec @ 12.12mph @ ~180lbs (1/8 mi)

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DKR, does it seem to run better on the butt-o-meter? Do you recall the part # for the pedestal? How much was it?

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I would be interested in knowing why thwy run better at lower vs. higher boost levels. When they run right, they were between 22-25 from the factory.

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DKR, does it seem to run better on the butt-o-meter? Do you recall the part # for the pedestal? How much was it?
Yes, by the "butt-o-meter" , it does seem to pull better and stronger. I will know for sure Saturday as I will be doing runs without the N2O for comparision.

As for part numbers and prices...

Pedestal LIST $226.79
Ford PN 3C3Z-6N639-BA

Hardware Kit LIST $8.53
Ford PN 3C3Z-9T514-AD

That is the list Ford prices, I have heard of them goin for anything from 140 something to list.

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Sponsored by Innovative Diesel Performance
SCT XCal2 w/ Custom Files & FICM tuning
DashDAQ Series II; ARP Headstuds; AFE Stage 2 XP Intake w/ Proguard 7
Industrial Injection 190cc injectors; FASS 150/180; ITP Regulated Return
'03 Turbo Swap; Zex N2O Dry Shot; CFM Smallmouth Intake Elbow
Zoodad w/ Predator Screen; MBRP 4" Cool Duals Straight Piped
EGR Delete w/ full manifold; Coolant Bypass Filter; Train Horns
Eclipse AVN62D; High Idle Mod; BFG ATs 285-65/20s

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Cooler- 39.93sec @ 12.12mph @ ~180lbs (1/8 mi)

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Higher boost doesn't always mean more power...my best times were run at a max of 24. That is one of the great things about custom tunes on a SCT. 36#s is pushing the threshold limits.

Eric at Innovative explained to me one night about higher boost vs lower, unfortunalty I cant recall enough of it right now to be thorough on explaining it.

How did you come by your turbo? Meaning, what's the easiest way to get ahold of a 03 turbo?

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I would be interested in knowing why thwy run better at lower vs. higher boost levels. When they run right, they were between 22-25 from the factory.
I will see if I can get Eric to chime in with the explaination when he gets a chance. IDP has been pretty busy recently.

I saw about 28 max when I was stock, so I was seeing less than stock after tuning, and that was on my Xtreme Street and my Xtreme Race files.


EDIT: I PMed Eric this thread.

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Sponsored by Innovative Diesel Performance
SCT XCal2 w/ Custom Files & FICM tuning
DashDAQ Series II; ARP Headstuds; AFE Stage 2 XP Intake w/ Proguard 7
Industrial Injection 190cc injectors; FASS 150/180; ITP Regulated Return
'03 Turbo Swap; Zex N2O Dry Shot; CFM Smallmouth Intake Elbow
Zoodad w/ Predator Screen; MBRP 4" Cool Duals Straight Piped
EGR Delete w/ full manifold; Coolant Bypass Filter; Train Horns
Eclipse AVN62D; High Idle Mod; BFG ATs 285-65/20s

Truck- 12.51sec @ 108mph @ ~7700lbs (1/4 mi)
Cooler- 39.93sec @ 12.12mph @ ~180lbs (1/8 mi)

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