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Old 02-26-2013, 07:40 PM
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Fire ringed heads?

Hey guys
I've been planning on installing a set of headstuds but have been debating on weather or not getting the heads fire ringed Is something that needs to be done. The truck currently has a Afe intake, 5 inch straight piped exhaust and a SCT with a Edge CTS monitor. Thanks for any advice
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no it's an unnecessary expense IMHO

a good set of checked heads ,ARP's and OEM gaskets are what you need
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:49 PM
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Thank you Good to know,

By the way does anyone know of any shops near El Paso that do good head work?
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Your heads will likely be cracked, 95% of them are. A good machine shop can install hardened seats...read the link in my sig. And, unless you plan on running 60+psi of boost, I wouldn't even consider o-ringing the heads. When its just the heads that are done it usually doesn't turn out well on 6.0's...the uneven clamping of 4 head bolts per cylinder compared to the 6 head bolts per cylinder of a 7.3 or cummins causes leakage issues unless the block is done too.
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That's good too know and the links very helpful
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Re: Fire ringed heads?

95% huh...? Out of the last 7 trucks I have done at work only one head had cracks. I think we just hear more about the negitives than the positives. But be sure to have them checked for sure, and need to use a shop that has done a good anount of these.
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95% huh...? Out of the last 7 trucks I have done at work only one head had cracks. I think we just hear more about the negitives than the positives. But be sure to have them checked for sure, and need to use a shop that has done a good anount of these.
Do you have any suggestions for a shop near El Paso,TX
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I don't want to knock o-ringing the heads but I have yet to hear anywhere that this is both preferred and superior to just using OEM head gaskets and ARPs (what I consider the gold standard for 6.0 head sealing). Considering the highest HP 6.0s only have this done. Just something to consider.
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Do you have any suggestions for a shop near El Paso,TX
I dont sorry...call around to the local diesel shops and see who they are using. Thats usally a good starting point.
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I have seen a lot of guys have problems with fire rings because they could not get the clamping force they needed with just the 20 ARP's. the only success I have seen on the "O" ring is by splitting the difference and machining the head and the Block to mate together and keep the ring from moving during install.

OEM's, a good true surface on a head and ARP's is all you would need to hold unless youer going for 900+ HP

I currenlty have close to 600 on OEM's and ARP's
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