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My current strategy is Vxap1n6, I heard that is terrible for miles and power. Exactly how can I get that changed? I have read a little into FICM tuning and so forth but need more help. Who do I need to contact.


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Your tune writer should be able to change the parameters so that when the truck is tuned your actual stragey doesn't matter. I was looking into rolling back but I was told my tunes are based off a good strategy, VXCF4. I have seen some conflict is whats a good strategy and whats not.

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My current strategy is Vxap1n6, I heard that is terrible for miles and power. Exactly how can I get that changed? I have read a little into FICM tuning and so forth but need more help. Who do I need to contact.
Dont worry about it, your 03 will always start with vxa. The tune writer will build around that base. Unless you drive around in a stock truck a rollback doesnt matter.

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Alright, thanks for all the input guys.


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Your tune writer should be able to change the parameters so that when the truck is tuned your actual stragey doesn't matter. I was looking into rolling back but I was told my tunes are based off a good strategy, VXCF4. I have seen some conflict is whats a good strategy and whats not.
that is not entirely true. with some strategys you can jump around, like vxcf5h5 you can run vxcf4h2 tunes but that doesnt mean everyone can do that. sometimes it will F up the ecm.

vxap1n6 is an inferred ebp strategy, he can ask a tuner or maybe one will chime in but im fairly certain that he can not run a tune for say VXAM7N2 (tec3 non inferred ebp strategy) because the calibrations are not in the same family.

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Dont worry about it, your 03 will always start with vxa. The tune writer will build around that base. Unless you drive around in a stock truck a rollback doesnt matter.
the rollback does matter. especially for an 03 truck, they run much better without the inferred EBP crap and the later calibrations tend to not shift nearly as well as the old stuff. of course i know this from experience.

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I guess I've got some of my info wrong. Thats what I was told. I've owned a 6.0's since 05 and I still don't know much! Clearly from my posts here lol.

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they may have been talking about your truck and its current calibration. but its hard to make a generalized statement like that because there is 4 years of trucks (each year has its own strategys) then there is a hundreds of calibrations for each year.

its worth the $75.00 to flash back the ecm/tcm vs the hassle of possibly screwing up the ECM or the tuner.

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the rollback does matter. especially for an 03 truck, they run much better without the inferred EBP crap and the later calibrations tend to not shift nearly as well as the old stuff. of course i know this from experience.
Can the tune writer use a strategy that utilizes the EBP on a truck with a base strategy like mine(vxap2b2) that infers EBP? And if the tuner turns off the adaptive learning does the trans strategy matter?

Thanks for the help sickso.

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i dont believe so but i will ask eric at innovative and get a better answer for you.

see some strategys maybe different VXCF4H2 vs VXCF4HB but the way they are written maybe similar so tunes can be interchangable. others arent

another thing to keep in mind is the strategy contains the operating system for ECM, if theres a compability problem this will cause issues.

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13.23 @ 100.89 Stock Injectors w/ Powermax Turbo
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