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Old 12-07-2007, 07:39 AM
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Bio Diesel Tolerant 6.0s

Team,

This is my question (maybe challenge for our vendor sponsors):

What package of upgrades do you need to make to the 6.0 to make it tolerant of bio fuels up to and including striaght fish grease from my favorite catfish house? With fuel well over $3 per gallon. I am seriously looking to alternatives, and Ford calls for no more than 5% bio-fuel. Have they not read the headlines? What are we going to do when we eventually go straight bio-fuel in this country post economic depression?!?!

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Garrett
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:41 AM
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The Nebraska Soybean board who's purpose in life is to promote Bio Diesel runs I believe B5 or B10 it may actually be higher in their F-250 6.0. The guy driving it swore to me it was stock.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:59 AM
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Straight B100 will work in your PSD BUT not in winter. It will gel up so maybe a blend of diesel and 19% bio-D for winter time.
If you wnat to run straight fry grease (like i do) you will need a secondary heated fuel system like the vegistroke, their are other conversions available but the vegistroke is the easiest and most simple design for the PSD.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:19 AM
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I have an Excursion, so of course, and external fuel system would not work. I am interested in what parts Ford claims to fail if using biofuel and what aftermarket parts to use to replace them to make the engine system as a whole tolerant to bio-fuels.

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Old 12-07-2007, 08:39 AM
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I have an Excursion, so of course, and external fuel system would not work. I am interested in what parts Ford claims to fail if using biofuel and what aftermarket parts to use to replace them to make the engine system as a whole tolerant to bio-fuels.

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GG
Jason Crawford of Vegistroke has done at least one conversion on an EX with a 30 gallon tank underthe truck. Its quite doable. He may have done more than one. Its worth a call to him to talk about.
Ford knows nothing about bio-D and therefore shuns its use in higher concentrations. Nothing about properly made Bio-D will harm any of the fuel system components. The key is "properly made". If any amount of sodium hydroxide remains in the mixture, that will cause injector failure (all eight). I do'nt know enough about making bio-d to comment on that further though. My reseach and experience has revieled this to be something that can and has happened to some home brewers.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:45 AM
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Straight B100 will work in your PSD BUT not in winter. It will gel up so maybe a blend of diesel and 19% bio-D for winter time.
If you wnat to run straight fry grease (like i do) you will need a secondary heated fuel system like the vegistroke, their are other conversions available but the vegistroke is the easiest and most simple design for the PSD.
It may not be cost effective, but how about using the vegistroke system to run 100% bio in the winter. Wouldn't that work the same as the WVO?
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:48 AM
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Thought I would add something here...I am a Biodiesel distributor in Southern California & we are opening 9 new locations that sell Biodiesel exclusively in LA & Orange Counties. I drive an '06 F350 4x4 CC SB 6.0 ALL STOCK & I run B100 (B99.9 actually). I suggest if you want to run Biodiesel start with 2 tanks of B20 then 1 tank of B100...change your fuel filter and you are good to go! Being in the business I can tell you I only buy BQ-9000 certified soy or agri-blend biodiesel. I prefer SoyPower Biodiesel due to stringent QA the company has with its product. We roll everything out in January 2008..Check out Registration Technologies, Inc. Parking Page in Jan. 08 for more info. I will share all Bio stories good & bad to help move this fuel into the mainstream.
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:02 AM
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It may not be cost effective, but how about using the vegistroke system to run 100% bio in the winter. Wouldn't that work the same as the WVO?
Yes, that would certainly work fine. You can put bio-d, diesel or vegi oil in the vegistroke. But it would be redundant to spend $3k for the vegistroke conversion and still go to the trouble to make bio-d out of the vegi oil when you can put it straight in the tank.
Of course an idividuals geographic location could also mean using a higher concentration of bio-d in the main tank in winter. If you lived south where winter temps. average 60* for lows, then theres no problem there. Run B100 all winter...just don't burn it if you plan to visit grandma in Nebraska for chistmas.
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:05 AM
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Straight B100 will work in your PSD BUT not in winter. It will gel up so maybe a blend of diesel and 19% bio-D for winter time.
If you wnat to run straight fry grease (like i do) you will need a secondary heated fuel system like the vegistroke, their are other conversions available but the vegistroke is the easiest and most simple design for the PSD.
oops, thats a typo, i meant 10%
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