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post #1 of 27 Old 12-11-2012, 03:34 AM Thread Starter
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What injection system is better?

Been kicking around the idea of posably adding a propane kit but then I also head some good things about Nitres and water meth kits so my question I'd what's safer and what better for the 6.0 and what mod should I need to do before I add a kit,

Has any one added the BATMO wheel to there turbo yet and how is it running?

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for me propane= big no! its to risky for me. nitrious and water meth are much safer. water meth can be run all the time and nitrious cant be as its to expensive and goes quick. so just depends where you wanna use it

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^^^ I agree. What are you going to use it for?

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Well I mostly want it for dd and playing I'm really not a led foot but I do like toy with other trucks when the time comes. I saw a clip of a guy getting 40mpg with a propane kit .is that even potable? And I really have no clue whatwater and meth dose last I knew water in the cylinder was bad. The idea of injecting water in the motor just bugs me. What mpg increase did you see with the water meth kit?

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A little bit of water, since it is H2O, it a good thing because it adds oxygen to the air-fuel mixture for more complete combustion. Nitrous does the same thing but at a much higher rate (read more power), but it gets used up really fast. The Methanol in water/meth actually adds some fuel to the mix as well because methanol will burn, also bumping up the power output. In addition water meth will help reduce EGTs because of more complete combustion and the cooling properties of water. You are right that too much water is a good thing, so don't get carried away.

Propane is just adding more fuel. If you want that, just get bigger injectors. I don't like Propane.

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Well I think injecting water and alcohol into a hot charge of air (that will vaporize the water and alcohol) going into the motor makes more sense to me than injecting a flameable liquid before the turbo, compressing it, and then flowing it into the motor. Just my opinion of course.

The way water/meth works is that it is sprayed into the air charge entering the intake manifold. When the air is at a certain pressure (usually 10psi or higher) there is enough heat in the air to fully vaporize the water (kind of creating steam if you will) and the heat transfer that occurs causes the air to give up some of its heat and drop in temperature so the air charge becomes more dense. The alcohol is also vaporized and works in aiding in efficiency of combustion to make more power. If done right, W/M will add just as much power as propane will but will be WAY safer and will actually help keep EGTs and cylinder pressures low where Propane will not. Propane is in essence similar to adding more fuel. Furthermore, W/M is less than $2 a gallon and propane is more than $4 a gallon and I think W/M will give you a better bang for the buck bump in fuel economy. Hope this helps.

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Nate explained it better than me

Either way, Propane is bad. I like Nitrous the best :

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make it simple and easy for ya. nitrious=race track, water meth=street use. nitrous is illegal on the street anyways.

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My vote is for the water injection. Been running it for a long time and it's great. I've heard of many running propane with no issues, but you gotta watch how much of it you inject...to much is bad.

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I vote WM i run a snow stage 2 kit and like it

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