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Old 12-04-2012, 11:37 PM
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Bullet Proofing my 6.0L

Hey guys, so ive read the Bullet proofing Sticky and numerous other threads. But i wanted to make a post to cover a few questions i have.

Ill start off with a little back ground of my self and the vehicle.

The Truck:
2005 Ford F250 All stock, except for 4" lift, and 35" Toyo MT's.
5r110 Trans
148,000 Miles
Pushing coolant under heavy load.
I purchased the truck ~2 weeks ago.

Me:
CNC Machinist for 6 years, Ive been working on cars since i was 10, i personally built and blue printed a turbo charged subaru race motor that makes ~450whp.
This is the first diesel that ive ever owned, or worked on for that matter.

My Plans for the Truck:
Use it to tow a 9,000lb excavator from time to time, but for the most part daily driver to and from work (50 miles round trip). Im currently averaging ~13.2 MPG. Id like to get better (duh) I was hoping for 15-16 average. Any tips on getting some better mpg?

Questions
#1: Is a kit like this worth the money? MKM Complete Master Solution Kit for 6.0L Powerstroke (Sinister EGR Delete, ARP Studs, Gaskets, Oil Cooler)
I want to do this job right the first time, but i dont want to waste money on a kit if i can piece it together cheaper.
Heres what i have so far.
OEM head gaskets $340
Xtreme Diesel Performance EGR Delete $209
ARP Head Studs $429
OEM Oil Cooler $309
I havent got prices on the rest of the gaskets i will need.

#2: What else needs attention due the the mileage of my truck while im in there?

#3: I plan to buy a scangauge II and an SCT Tuner. What else do i really need?

Thanks for your guys time
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:15 AM
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youve got a good head start. instead of the SCT and Scangauge,buy the SCT Livewire TS. its a monitor and programmer in one. make sure to get the EGT probe with it. love mine. there are a couple guys here that can tell you a special adapter from Snap-on (i think) that will make the head studs easier. i would go ahead and do the blue spring update (its behind plate on the front of the fuel filter housing thats under the hood), and probably the stand pipes, dummy plugs, updated turbo drain, and the Banjo bolts from the 6.4 for the fuel lines on the front of the heads.. thats all i can remember right now. everyone else will chime on the rest

if i were you, i would ditch the stock oil cooler and do the Bullet proof Diesel Oil Cooler Relocation kit if you have the extra cash. on a cool night i see 178-180 degree coolant temps and around 155-160 degree oil temps cruising at 70. its an excellent kit, plus keeping your oil AWAY from any coolant. if not, do the better cooler from Bulletproof. thats your call though. if you go with the stock oil cooler, get rid of the ford coolant for Rotella ELC or Cat ELC (i think there are a couple others).

i dont know much about that kit. may be cheaper to get your parts separate. i know XDP's EGR delete is cheaper than Sinisters, and its the same thing.

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Old 12-05-2012, 06:32 AM
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I will second the recommendation to get the BPD oil cooler if you can afford it right now. If no, just get a new OEM oil cooler. I would add to your list a coolant filter. It should help prolong the life of your OEM oil Cooler. Before you change the oil cooler, I recommend you do a chemical flush, I think there are a couple threads with the procedure, and switch to CAT EC-1 rated ELC. I personally like the scangauge and SCT combo,, it is cheap, effective, and doesn't look like a GPS to temp people into smashing your windows. If you want something a little more sophisticated for a monitor, look at the Edge Insight, either CS or CTS. The Insight, scangauge, and livewire all read engine parameters from the OBD II port under the dash. Unfortunately, there are a couple pretty important values that cannot be read through the OBD II. These are Fuel pressure and Exhaust Gas Temperature. These can be monitored with aftermarket gauges or by adding sensors to your Insight or Livewire. I like the combination of the scangauge with a couple of autometer or ISSPro gauges.

Other parts you should take care of while you have it torn apart are updates stand pipes and dummy plugs, updated STC fitting and turbo drain, and Blue Fuel Pressure regulator spring.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:38 AM
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Another vote for the Bulletproof Diesel oil cooler, and they also have everything else you may or may not need to get your truck where you want it. Highly encourage you to give them a call and discuss your goals with them. They won't steer you in the wrong direction.
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youll need dummy plugs stand pipes stc fitting (i recommend turbo drain tuibe) new injector o rings
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i have used 2 of these egr delete kits. they are high quality and cheapest i could find besides the knock off stuff on ebay.
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I like the scangaugeII its small and can be somewhat hidden.
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Another vote for the BPD oil cooler. If there were any way I could afford one that's what I would have but I had to settle for the OEM from Ford. The BPD is still on my want list though.

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Old 12-06-2012, 12:22 AM
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The BPD oil cooler defiantly isnt in the budget right now. ($2200...) Is it made out of gold? haha

Anyway, thanks everybody for the info so far. I plan to do a coolant filter kit.

i have another question though.
It does seem that the kits are a little cheaper than buying everything individuality.
6.0*Full*Solution for Powerstroke 6.0L*(EGR Delete, Studs,*All Gaskets, & Oil Cooler)
Im looking at this kit, but aftermarket gaskets and orings always concern me. Sometimes there a down grade instead of an upgrade.

I know im going with OEM head gaskets, but im not sure on the rest. The kit above comes with aftermarket intake gaskets, exhaust gaskets, injector orings, etc.

I dont want to save a few hundred bucks just to have to do it all over again because a $3 oring broke or was inadequate.
So in what areas are the oem gaskets the best?
Is there any areas that the oem gaskets fall short and should be replaced with an aftermarket counterpart?
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I wouldn't use Black Onyx head gaskets either. They don't have a great track record. At my techs recommendation, I stayed with OEM gaskets everywhere.

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