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post #1 of 20 Old 08-09-2012, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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SCT or EDGE???

ok so after a lot of research on here everyone on here is pro sct. no problems with that, i just purchased an 06 F250 with a diablo preditor on it...mind you this is my first diesel and i ran across this site...first things first diablo is out gonna sell it on craigs list...I thought that i had figured out that i was gonna buy a sct livewire for the gauges an all, then i run across the edge juice with attitude cts. now i'm leaning that way custom tunes, change on the fly, plus you can adjust the shift points which is what i really liked about the livewire I cant really tell the difference between the two other than cts has a nicier touch screen and you can change on the fly unlike sct. both have gauges, just ones fancier...both change shift points and firmness...both are able to custom tune...am i missing something here i dont wanna start a pi$$in match here but which one should i go with? my truck came with cold air intake, and arp head studs...the truck goes in tomorrow for 4" turbo back straight exhaust...oh and it doesnt have any gauges in it...thats why i'm leaning towards cts or livewire. thanks and this is my first post total newbie here thanks...Hoogie...
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Where are you gonna get custom tunes for the Edge


The only person I can think of is Bill at PHP... can't remember if he can tune the attitude module!?!?!?!

If yes, then I kinda like the idea of getting custom tunes from him AND being able to use the same programer for gauges.

If not, then I go with SCT

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Oh and custom tunes on the Edge will get rid of the "on the fly shifting" option also... There is NO good Shift on the fly tuners available for the 6.0's!!!

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My question is how much transmission tuning is capable of being done with the Edge product?

Without good transmission tuning the 5R110 can be hit or miss, with performance and longevity.

I still recommend the SCT X3 with Insight CS/CTS for this reason. Full custom tunes that are proven, and solid monitoring that can be expanded to keep everything the 6.0L needs.
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FEATURES
• 5 On-the-Fly Adjustable Power Levels*
• Full-color, high-resolution, 4.3 inch touchscreen (CTS)
• Up to an Additional 120 HP and 240 ft lb Torque on the 6.0L Powerstroke
• NEW Ability to program your transmission to adjust Shift Points, Shift Firmness*, Speed Limiter, and Rev Limiter*
• Increase Fuel Economy**
• Greatly Improves Drivability
• Enhances Towing Performance
• MyStyle™ Software
• NEW Maintenance Manager Application
• Excellent Throttle Response
• Easy Installation
• Compatible with all Edge custom dash pods (sold separately). View/order Edge custom dash pods by clicking here. (sold separately)
• Includes light sensitivity meter to dim screen as ambient light decreases
• Internet Updateable (Attitude only)

POWER LEVELS:
Level 0: Stock
Level T: Transmission Tune Only
Level 1: 25 Horsepower – 50 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 2: 50 Horsepower – 100 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 3: 75 Horsepower – 150 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 4: 90 Horsepower – 180 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 5: 120 Horsepower – 240 Foot Pounds of Torque

all i did was take that off there site...Hoogie
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I don't think the newer edge can eliminate egr function. Belive 06 will throw a code when this is done.

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SCT with Insight is my vote.

Aaron 2005 f250 552/1040 45k miles
S&B. 4" mbrp, Arp's, Dual oil bypass. CCV fltr, Clnt fltr Mag trans pan 08 diff cover. 4.10's, 315's MotoMetal 951 & 5" lift.TGC trac bar, Bislstien Shocks & Dual stear stabilizer. B&W . Air Rides. Snows MPG Max. Edge Insight, fuel sens. DC Eng.185 alt. 58v ficm 6.4 Juger pump Fass sump
NO more mtw turbo
AJB Custom R.R.
AJB Custom y pipe
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PHP Gryphon
Banks IC
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FEATURES
• 5 On-the-Fly Adjustable Power Levels*
• Full-color, high-resolution, 4.3 inch touchscreen (CTS)
• Up to an Additional 120 HP and 240 ft lb Torque on the 6.0L Powerstroke
• NEW Ability to program your transmission to adjust Shift Points, Shift Firmness*, Speed Limiter, and Rev Limiter*
• Increase Fuel Economy**
• Greatly Improves Drivability
• Enhances Towing Performance
• MyStyle™ Software
• NEW Maintenance Manager Application
• Excellent Throttle Response
• Easy Installation
• Compatible with all Edge custom dash pods (sold separately). View/order Edge custom dash pods by clicking here. (sold separately)
• Includes light sensitivity meter to dim screen as ambient light decreases
• Internet Updateable (Attitude only)

POWER LEVELS:
Level 0: Stock
Level T: Transmission Tune Only
Level 1: 25 Horsepower – 50 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 2: 50 Horsepower – 100 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 3: 75 Horsepower – 150 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 4: 90 Horsepower – 180 Foot Pounds of Torque
Level 5: 120 Horsepower – 240 Foot Pounds of Torque

all i did was take that off there site...Hoogie


Yeah...... This is NOT custom tunes bud!

Get an SCT tuner with a Edge Insight monitor/gauges

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FEATURES
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• NEW Ability to program your transmission to adjust Shift Points, Shift Firmness*, Speed Limiter, and Rev Limiter*
. . .
all i did was take that off there site...Hoogie
First, that is not a fraction of what parameters are altered by a custom SCT file. Second, alteration of those two points alone, will not protect the 5R110 and allow it to hold up to its full potential.

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I don't think the newer edge can eliminate egr function. Belive 06 will throw a code when this is done.
Edge Products are pushing for CARB certs, therefore, EGR valve disablement is unlikely. Custom files, I have yet to get any data one way or that other. The later trucks will only throw a code on the latest Ford strategy from what I have seen.

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Yeah...... This is NOT custom tunes bud!

Get an SCT tuner with a Edge Insight monitor/gauges
Agreed, nothing I have seen will match a custom tuned SCT truck, modifications the same.
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I wish you could get custom tunes in the cts That would be nice but I haven't heard of any such thing. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist though I suppose. I've used the tunes on my cts and they aren't bad but it can be very harsh on the tranny on extreme so do be careful if you go that route. You'll find that people on these forums are set in way they will tell you works and doesn't work and blah blah blah. Truth is most of them haven't tried anything but sct. No question for a modified truck sct is the king but I don't see any issues with a mostly stock truck using the edge just don't abuse the truck with it on extreme for sure! If you aren't power hungry and you drive with some sense I don't see any issues going with the edge it's monitoring features are fantastic!

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