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Angry Airdog II 165 problem!!! Again...

I know theres about 2 million post of this on here but....well, I dont know where to start...This pump my brother (rdunagan) had on his white 06 CCLB dually, and long story short, he went through 2 pumps alone on that truck due to not holding fuel pressure, so they sent him gears,and a motor, at least once. When he sold it he took off the newest one he had on there, so it sat for almost 8 months before we swapped it into my truck, and the thing ran great for almost 4-5 months. I just got off the phone with Airdogs tech and the 1 year warranty ran out about 2 months ago and apparently lost Ross' lifetime warranty card... so my question to the org is that should I buy Airdog's replacement at $219 and risk another pump in a year or so or put my money into another pump? Any imput is appreciated! Looking into Aeromotive, or FASS or anything else for that matter. we have already put tons of money into this pump and dont have the money to put into it every year nor the time to replace them every year or less when they burn out. Okay, off my soap box...I know Airdog is a sponsor on here, so we'll see how this goes!


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Have you looked into the Fuel Lab pumps at all? I am going to have my AirdogII feed this baby http://fuelab.com/prodigy-fuel-pumps...cy-efi-in-line
I'll be able to turn my psi down on the AirdogII and hopefully it wont ever fail. This idea was brought to me by PvtGreen. He'll probably chime in if he sees this thread.

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well we would rather not have the airdog on there at all. i do like that pump though. ive got word that they are going to come out with a pump like the airdog and fass but better quality


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They are? I mean you could always get the AD150 to feed the stock pump but if Fuel Lab is coming out with something the the ADII than maybe wait? If you draw out everything you need for the Fuel Lab I would go that route. There are some threads on it if you look around. My ADII failed on me after two weeks of owning it. I was rather pissed off...

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I just had an AD165 installed now I'm biting my nails.

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... ive got word that they are going to come out with a pump like the airdog and fass but better quality
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They are? I mean you could always get the AD150 to feed the stock pump but if Fuel Lab is coming out with something the the ADII than maybe wait? If you draw out everything you need for the Fuel Lab I would go that route. There are some threads on it if you look around. My ADII failed on me after two weeks of owning it. I was rather pissed off...
Yes Fuelab is coming out with a system that would act very much like the AD2 in that it is a high pressure/lift pumping unit that also removes entrained air like the Airdog/FASS units.

I personally would not drop the $219 for the AD2 but would instead build the system from the ground up if you can aford it, which would include a sump, AD150, and either A1000 or Fuelab 41401 or 41402 all with new lines that tied into a RR kit at the motor and deleted the Fuel bowl.

If you can't, I would recommend setting something up with a Fuelab pump that draws from a sump and goes water separator to pump to 2 micron filter to the motor. It has been proven to work.

Hope this helps.

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Yes Fuelab is coming out with a system that would act very much like the AD2 in that it is a high pressure/lift pumping unit that also removes entrained air like the Airdog/FASS units.

I personally would not drop the $219 for the AD2 but would instead build the system from the ground up if you can aford it, which would include a sump, AD150, and either A1000 or Fuelab 41401 or 41402 all with new lines that tied into a RR kit at the motor and deleted the Fuel bowl.

If you can't, I would recommend setting something up with a Fuelab pump that draws from a sump and goes water separator to pump to 2 micron filter to the motor. It has been proven to work.

Hope this helps.
Everything he said is spot on. That's the route I'd do if I were you.

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okay fuelab only puts out 45psi of fuel pressure, what do you recommend there, seriously thinking about that route! Also I have a TSD fuel sump with 1/2 fuel lines. Id rather not delete the fuel bowl, because Id have no way to mount my RR, and if I ever decide to sell the truck, its not the best looking thing! lol but yall are doing great, keep em coming!


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The Fuelab puts out more than only 45psi. What you are seeing is the flowrate that the pump is rated for at 45psi. Look at the graph they give to see what the flowrate is at 60psi.

You dont need to delete the fuel bowl but you will need to up your fuel line size from the tank to the pump to 5/8in (10AN) to keep up with the increased flow.

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Fuel lab is capable of 12- psi. For $219 I'd replace the Airdog and use it as a lift pump to supply a Fuelab 41402. I found that online for $379. Fuelabmakes a 529 series regulator with electrobic control for these pumps which will basically make it an on demand pump and slow it down when the demand isn't there. That is how I will be reworking my system.
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