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post #1 of 49 Old 07-24-2012, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
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Powermax turbo ?

I'm thinking about getting a powermax turbo but I'm wondering if I can run it with stock injectors and would it be safe to run without head studs? Thanks for any answers


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I would look into a turbo from Adrain (Madpowerstroke) His company is Mad Turbo Werks and builds great turbos that outperform the powermax and are more affordable

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Yelp better go with the mad turbo stage 1 or maybe even his new hybrid turbo. Nothing wrong with powermax but his turbos have shown to out perform the powermax even on stock tuning.

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I would look into a turbo from Adrain (Madpowerstroke) His company is Mad Turbo Werks and builds great turbos that outperform the powermax and are more affordable
Maybe I miss read the prices but I didn't see were they are more affordable! Pmax I got was 1150


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But from the feedback they will definitely out perform the pmax! I would love to have one but I'm already invested in my pmax.


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IIRC the stage 1's were $750

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IIRC the stage 1's were $750
Aha but you have to pay a $400 core charge. Pmax has no core charge. If your stock turbo is in good shape, you can get $400 for it makeing the two turbos comparable in price.

Also, pmax is new vs Stage 1 which is used/reconditioned.

OP, what year is your truck? early trucks do better with the pmax than later ones. Later trucks like the stage 1 better.

Edit, NVM I see you have an 06. I recommend the MTW Stage 1

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yes you can run a PMAX with stock injectors, Also I use a pmax on my 05 with no issues most talk about and even runs better than my stocker. I also use a vxcf9 strat which may help. One thing I looked at when making my decision is this. Adrian seems to be building good turbos, but with a truck a use as a DD and I want to keep around for 3-5 more years and is not a toy to me. I would rather have a big company to go back to than someone that may one day decide to stock building turbos when I need a new one. I didn't want to get stuck building my truck around a turbo I might not be able to get in the future. Again I think what Adrian is done is good and really good in the stage 3 and beyond but I below that I feel as long as a truck is in good running shape the pmax can be made to work well. Again pros and cons to both.

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Aha but you have to pay a $400 core charge. Pmax has no core charge. If your stock turbo is in good shape, you can get $400 for it makeing the two turbos comparable in price.

Also, pmax is new vs Stage 1 which is used/reconditioned.

OP, what year is your truck? early trucks do better with the pmax than later ones. Later trucks like the stage 1 better.

Edit, NVM I see you have an 06. I recommend the MTW Stage 1
You do not have to pay the $400 core charge. He can build the turbo from the stock turbo. As far as the difference between the Powermax being a new turbo and the MTW turbos being rebuilt/reconditioned goes, this really is a play on words. The powermax has new housings so they look a little better but otherwise there is no difference between the two turbos.

IMO, if one is on a tight budget and has a truck with an 04-07 turbo in it, then I would recommend the Stage 1 turbo. It is $775 plus shipping built from your turbo and will spool quicker than the powermax and flow just as much up top as the powermax. Sure the OP could sell his stock turbo thus off setting the price of the powermax but in the end it only approaches the bargain that the Stage 1 is and still wont perform as good in his truck and if he were to decide to go with either a hybrid to Stage 2, then there really isnt any comparison as both of those turbos flow more air everywhere compared to the Powermax.

JMOs on this. Please dont think I am slamming the Powermax as I am most definitely not but the only thing the Powermax has going for it is that it has new housing and doesnt require a core charge; but when you look at it from a performance aspect, people with new trucks that have switched to a PM saw higher than stock cruising EGTs and lower fuel mileage where the later trucks who use the Stage 1 have seen slightly lower than stock cruising EGTs and better than stock fuel mileage while both turbos perform about the same EGT wise on the top end.

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Everywhere around me must be trying to screw me if powermax doesn't have a core charge? Everyone around me wants 300-400 for core charge making powermax 1500 maybe I'm looking in the wrong places lol

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