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post #1 of 92 Old 07-19-2012, 04:17 AM Thread Starter
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Air cooled -vs- fluid cooled oil cooler

Lookin to replace and upgrade my oil cooler, easy enough..... However, I'm seeing alot of these air cooled systems around these days look easy to do an install but is it advantageous or a waste of time. What the benefits of switch cooler types? Any out there use and air cooled OC??

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you can read all about them at Bulletproof diesel.com

I know a few guys running them ,, the real advantage is it eliminates the blockage prone OEM cooler so you won't be wondering when it will fail again

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The only worth while air to oil cooer available is the bulletproof diesel oil cooler. The others on the market are cheap and do not have the necessary cooling ability for these engines. The bpd cooler has been shown to cool slightly better than the stock oil cooler, and bpd is coming out with some options to make it cool even better for those who tow heavy in hot climates. The real advantage to the bpd cooler is that it will never clog and stop funtioning becasue of crap in the coolat. Even if you flush the Ford Gold and use EC-1 coolant with a coolant filter, you still risk cloggin the stock oil cooler. The stock cooler is an efficient heat exhanger, but it is poorlly suited for the harsh environment that is a diesel engine.

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The only worth while air to oil cooer available is the bulletproof diesel oil cooler. The others on the market are cheap and do not have the necessary cooling ability for these engines. The bpd cooler has been shown to cool slightly better than the stock oil cooler, and bpd is coming out with some options to make it cool even better for those who tow heavy in hot climates. The real advantage to the bpd cooler is that it will never clog and stop funtioning becasue of crap in the coolat. Even if you flush the Ford Gold and use EC-1 coolant with a coolant filter, you still risk cloggin the stock oil cooler. The stock cooler is an efficient heat exhanger, but it is poorlly suited for the harsh environment that is a diesel engine.
totally!!! I have the BPD oil cooler and simply love it. With this cooler and an EGR delete I have less of a heat load on my cooling system and my oil temps are good too.

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I guess what I meant was is differences worth paying bpd the 1900 as to paying the 800 or so for a OEM cooler.

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For me the cost of the BPD kit was worth it and I went with it because I wanted something that I could get so I wouldnt have to worry about my OEM oil cooler ever clogging again. I would say as long as you dont tow like 20k lbs or anything through the desert and across the country with a completely stock tune, then the BPD kit will work GREAT and will handle whatever you can throw at it. I really like spin on filters over cartridge filters as well but that is JMO. The one thing I can tell you to NOT do is try and make this kit yourself to "save" some money because you wont. You will either spend more money trying to make it right and/or fixing your truck because you burnt it up. Believe me I tried. I was fortunate enough to not ever have any damage to my motor but to get everything like I wanted it took three iterations of building the kit and even more hoses. I am pretty sure that I am well over $3k now in just my oil cooling system, but it's ok for me because I did have fun and I learned A LOT. It just costs money is all.

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These guys have pretty well covered it and my experience has been no different. If you want to do it once and be done with it, go with the BulletProof oil cooler. If you want to run the risk of having it clog and watching deltas, potentially cascading failures taking out your EGR cooler and/or head gaskets, that's up to you. It's definitely the cheaper way to go and COULD last you for quite a while.

I had all that grief multiple times and thankfully the factory warranty covered it for me. After it rolled over 100k miles, I made the decision to switch and haven't looked back. I'm now running at 135k miles on my truck and over 2 years running this setup towing in the HOT AZ desert with no failures. That's NEVER happened with the factory setup despite running a coolant filter since 40k miles.

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you guys got pics of your setups? Also what cooler did you get the bumper mount or the condenser mounted one?

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I have the compressor mounted one. I can try to get pics of it tomorrow when I take some stuff aprt to do a few other mods to the truck. I didn't have the foresight to take pictures when I was installing it

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I have a few, but they aren't well organized. I went with the condenser mount cooler.

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BulletProof Water Pump
Riff Raff Intercooler Boots
Gogo Diesel Direct Drive Solenoid
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BulletProof Oil Cooler System w/ Bypass Filter
SCT w/ Custom Tunes (TSD, DJ's, Innovative, Gearhead, QuickTricks)

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