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post #1 of 49 Old 06-05-2012, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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PHP vs IDP FICM tuning

They both claim similar gains. They both claim to return your FICM to an older better flash. $100 price difference but with the PHP your getting monitoring capabilities from the Gryphon. The PHP says 4-6 weeks for delivery.

Is there really a difference in performance/mileage gains? 4-6 weeks is a long time. I know many of you are using PHP. Not sure if that's because of the Gryphon and its extra features or the tuning is better.

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Honestly, I couldnt favor the PHP gryphon anymore, its WELL worth the wait, for the price, and quality its unbeatable. 4 tunes, and monitoring capabilities alone are worth the money.
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PHPs old tune was just a rollbak with some minor tweaks.....The new tunes are putting down same numbers as ECM tuners and can be stacked with them.

Oh snap, now we're stacking

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I'm interested in the responses here as I am interested in getting a FICM tune.

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They both claim similar gains. They both claim to return your FICM to an older better flash. $100 price difference but with the PHP your getting monitoring capabilities from the Gryphon. The PHP says 4-6 weeks for delivery.

Is there really a difference in performance/mileage gains? 4-6 weeks is a long time. I know many of you are using PHP. Not sure if that's because of the Gryphon and its extra features or the tuning is better.
4-6 weeks to have a Gryphon FICM programmer sent to your house. It only took a week to get mine.

I have the Gryphon programmer, it hold 4 tunes. Has monitor capabilities, read/clear codes, performance data log, and can be used to roll back your stock ECM if you wish.

From what I've read about ID's, it comes with one tune and if you want to try a different tune, you will need to load in another tune using PC software in order to try it. Maybe someone can chime in with the loading procedure of ID's. IIRC, it can read/clear codes.

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I run the PHP FICM tuner everyday. I run the Hercules FICM tuner along with the SCT tuner and Matt's SRL tune. I love the FICM tuner!! It made a world of difference! Well worth the money in my opinion!

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Oh snap, now we're stacking
haha!!! Good one

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I debated for the longest time on whether to go with PHP or IDP. I went with IDP because I didnt have to wait 12 weeks for a tuner and this was when PHP had only their one tune. The IDP tune that I have works good and all but I really want to try PHP's new tunes out so I am gonna buy a tuner and try them out and will be able to tell you if I notice any difference.

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I just got my FICM reflashed to Atlas80 (send it in for a check up and refresh, and free updated flash). I have to say world of a difference. As soon as i can swing the 400 for the PHP tuner, ill have one, i expect it on my doorstep in the next month or 2

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4-6 weeks to have a Gryphon FICM programmer sent to your house. It only took a week to get mine.

I have the Gryphon programmer, it hold 4 tunes. Has monitor capabilities, read/clear codes, performance data log, and can be used to roll back your stock ECM if you wish.

From what I've read about ID's, it comes with one tune and if you want to try a different tune, you will need to load in another tune using PC software in order to try it. Maybe someone can chime in with the loading procedure of ID's. IIRC, it can read/clear codes.
can you monitor stuff like FICM voltage as well. Currently i have boost, egt, fuel pressure. Wanted to use the Gryphon to monitor EOT vs ECT and ficm voltages?

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