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Old 01-03-2013, 11:52 AM
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I don't have any more technical answers, I tried it, seen little benefit, and choose not to run it based on the fact it's not a factory option. It's like a performance tune, there is benefit, at cost(wear and tear), and it's hard to directly measure cost. With a tune, the positive results justify the cost/risk (wear and tear) for me. The turbo brake does not - to me.
It actually is programmed do this on factory tuning just not as aggressive as what a tune does.

The fact that you did not notice i difference in slow down tells me that your jake brake wasn't very aggressive tuning wise. My friend has this feature on his duramax(widely used in the duramax community and is basically the same operation) and it makes a large difference in brake wear.

If this was going to cost more (wear and tear) then why do almost all big rigs use a type a jake brake? Although different in the way it initiates the action ends in the same result.

Another point in EBP is that aftermarket companies use EBP to enhance engine braking. if this was a practice that could cause damage to the engine then why would they market such a piece that could open them up to such liabilities?

Not trying to change your mind, its your truck and you can operate it anyway you see fit. Just wanted to throw these points out in this discussion.
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Sootman, while you can sell nearly anything on the net, I think you have to back your claim before you sell product on " the Org"

Submit your revelation to Ford, if it is benificial, I am sure they will adopt it. Until then, I will stick with it at the factory setting. My custom tune is based on my strategy and enhanced, so the un-manipulated settings are ford standard, so whatever the truck does stock is what my turbo does on deceleration (which is zero turbo braking bro).

When I ran the jake brake tune, it boosted to 20psi or so on deceleration, so it worked as advertised. Big rigs are so different from the 6.0L, not a lot of advantage in comparing. I've tried it, I'm going to run without.

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If this was going to cost more (wear and tear) then why do almost all big rigs use a type a jake brake? Although different in the way it initiates the action ends in the same result.
They have jakes. Not a turbo brake

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I have a weird feeling that the the issue I had with the Aggressive Tow from Viv with TB was just a coincidence.

I was coming down a steep hill towing a boat to a customers house, about 7500lbs boat/motor/trailer.
I was in Tow/haul, got on the brakes to initiate the turbo brake, as soon as it down shifted, and the engine boosted, it threw a CEL.
I was only a couple hundred yards from the customers house when it happened.
Backed into his drive, and checked the Edge for codes.
Pulled a glow plug circuit fail code, I think it was P0671.

I never had this code pop up before. I still have yet to fix it.
This was the first time I used the Aggr. Tow in T/H, while actually towing.
I still use the tune, just dont put it in T/H going down big hills, I just use the brakes.


I cant think of a logical reason why that would set a glow plug code.
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I have a weird feeling that the the issue I had with the Aggressive Tow from Viv with TB was just a coincidence.

I was coming down a steep hill towing a boat to a customers house, about 7500lbs boat/motor/trailer.
I was in Tow/haul, got on the brakes to initiate the turbo brake, as soon as it down shifted, and the engine boosted, it threw a CEL.
I was only a couple hundred yards from the customers house when it happened.
Backed into his drive, and checked the Edge for codes.
Pulled a glow plug circuit fail code, I think it was P0671.

I never had this code pop up before. I still have yet to fix it.
This was the first time I used the Aggr. Tow in T/H, while actually towing.
I still use the tune, just dont put it in T/H going down big hills, I just use the brakes.


I cant think of a logical reason why that would set a glow plug code.

I would throw a wrench light when I towed 18k and after a long downhill stretch with the reverse boost pressure fairly high. Another reason I abandoned this invented attribute.
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I have a weird feeling that the the issue I had with the Aggressive Tow from Viv with TB was just a coincidence.

I was coming down a steep hill towing a boat to a customers house, about 7500lbs boat/motor/trailer.
I was in Tow/haul, got on the brakes to initiate the turbo brake, as soon as it down shifted, and the engine boosted, it threw a CEL.
I was only a couple hundred yards from the customers house when it happened.
Backed into his drive, and checked the Edge for codes.
Pulled a glow plug circuit fail code, I think it was P0671.

I never had this code pop up before. I still have yet to fix it.
This was the first time I used the Aggr. Tow in T/H, while actually towing.
I still use the tune, just dont put it in T/H going down big hills, I just use the brakes.


I cant think of a logical reason why that would set a glow plug code.

I found this interesting,because I run her non aggressive tow tune with turbobrake for pulling my 5th and now have a P0676 code IIR.... , which I think is number 6 bad glow plug.My plugs were new 6 months ago.
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For another data point- my truck has 36k. I have towed at or over Max Combined Gross for 80% of those miles. I have towed up and down the ALCAN and towed coast to coast twice. Before my last trip (Vegas to DC) this summer, I bought all new OEM brake pads. When I went to install them, they still had 50% pad! I was so amazed. So now after that haul, my new pads are still in garage. They cost about $140 for the four if I remember correctly. Lets not try to pretend we are all burning through brake pads so quick at high costs.
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