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post #1 of 16 Old 05-23-2012, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
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62/70 small turbo with an S474 big turbo
has anyone ran these?
What am I looking at to support these besides the usual studs EGR delete etc.
and what kind of power?
What size injectors match up with these?

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62/70 small turbo with an S474 big turbo
has anyone ran these?
What am I looking at to support these besides the usual studs EGR delete etc.
and what kind of power?
What size injectors match up with these?
They are compound turbos but anyways..

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Injectors 225/100+ ? (Should call them to see what they recommend)
Maybe a hpop upgrade
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Or If you are just going to run them as reliable as possible probably a set of 190/100 (still call them). Ported intake, studs, delete, fuel system gauges and maybe some built tranny parts.

They say 700rwhp on the website.

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As far as injectors 190/75s plus.

Other than that the usual stuff

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I would go 190/75 or 205/100, 225/100s maybe. 225s would be about all the bigger you would want. It would get hot with 225s I would think. Their race compounds would be better for 225s IMO. I am sure you can call them and they will mix and match which turbos you get with it to suit what you want from the truck.

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You wont hold ICP with 225's and honestly you dont need anything bigger than a 205cc injector...so no need for an upgraded HPOP. This is the Industrial injection setup. All you need is the basics...studs, intake, exhaust, custom tunes and at least 190/75 injectors. Stock internals, stock heads/valve train and stock intake manifold will be just fine...just ask Shawn Ellerton. He made over 1000hp with stock heads, stock intake manifold, stock HPOP and stock exhaust manifolds.

But i wouldn't even waste my money on the industrial injection setup....soooo many complaints with it, not even worth it.

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You wont hold ICP with 225's and honestly you dont need anything bigger than a 205cc injector...so no need for an upgraded HPOP. This is the Industrial injection setup. All you need is the basics...studs, intake, exhaust, custom tunes and at least 190/75 injectors. Stock internals, stock heads/valve train and stock intake manifold will be just fine...just ask Shawn Ellerton. He made over 1000hp with stock heads, stock intake manifold, stock HPOP and stock exhaust manifolds.

But i wouldn't even waste my money on the industrial injection setup....soooo many complaints with it, not even worth it.
I haven't heard all of the complaints, just a few, but I agree that there are better setups available for less money. If/when I get compounds, i would be inclined to go with Cutting Edge Diesel. His kit looks simple, yet effective, and the fit and finish looks great. Plus he uses better bullseye turbos. JMO of course.

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I've heard alot of issues with them. Exhaust leaks because of poor weld jobs. turbo hoses blowing off because the piping doesn't even line up the way it's suppose to drian line issues...nothing but headaches from a handful of guys i've talked to that had them. And everyone having the same issues with the kit.

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What other systems are available I'm looking for something that will still tow nothing serious 10-15k, and be reliable so I was thinking compounds would be the way to go.

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Well with compounds, you could run 205's with no issues with EGT's.

I personally run a PowerMax and 190's and I have no issues keeping EGT's in check with Matt's tow tune hauling 12k. I will eventually get this turbo built into a billet 68mm though.

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I haven't heard all of the complaints, just a few, but I agree that there are better setups available for less money. If/when I get compounds, i would be inclined to go with Cutting Edge Diesel. His kit looks simple, yet effective, and the fit and finish looks great. Plus he uses better bullseye turbos. JMO of course.
Same here when I step into compounds, it looks like he makes a good product.

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