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Change from Scan Gauge II to Edge Insight CTS?

My truck came with a Scan Gauge II. Lots of X-gauges already set up. Based on advice from those here I want to add a fuel pressure gauge and Pyro. It appears that an Edge Insight CTS + the added Pyro and fuel pressure would be most cost effective to do. Plus, even though they look cool I don't want gauges cluttering up the dash and the less the wife sees the better.

Not sure how to go about this. I also really don't want to have to go drilling or getting into a lot of technical issues under the hood. Any plain English and simple guidance would be greatly appreciated.

This is my first diesel and am learning. I already have the EGR delete and coolant filtration. Based on throttle response I'd bet I have the blue spring mod but won't be sure until I get the fuel pressure gauge installed.

I have ~$300-400 to spend.

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Also, is it that important to monitor EGT if you have the EGR Delete?
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The Edge Insight is very easy to hook up, it goes straight to the OBII port. That will monitor the core three things to watch for on the 6.0L. ECT/EOT for deltas (showing the oil cooler is clogging up), and FICM voltage at start up (which will lead to FICM and Injector failure). You should shop around and get that alone for monitoring, until you have the funding for expanding. There is plenty to monitor with the Insight without expanding, and drilling/modding under the hood.

For EGT's, which is very important if your truck is tuned, you will have to install the EGT probe in the drivers side exhaust manifold and route it through the firewall. Dieselmanor.com has a great tutorial on this.

Fuel Pressure, is a little more complicated. You have to decide weather to mount the isolation line off the test port on the filter housing, or use a tapped fuel filter cap. The isolation line is routed away from the engine to a sending unit, and that is wired to the back of the Insight.

I run a combination of Gauges and the Insight. I like the look of gauges, but I feel the Insight can handle everything needed on the 6.0L more cost effectively.

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how long after startup can you read the ficm voltage to see if its ok? I have to wait for the insight to run through its startup crap and when it comes on the ficm voltage is somewhere between 47.5v and 49v....this is usually 5-6 seconds after the truck has started.

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I have ~$300-400 to spend.

Thanks for your help.
Unfortunately the Edge Insight CTS just by itself is gonna be $400. Then you will have $129 for EGT, $129 for sensor kit and $129 or so for the sensor input kit.

It is well worth the money, I have never regreted buying the CTS and related components.

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Turn the key on and wait for the CTS to start up, then start the truck.

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how long after startup can you read the ficm voltage to see if its ok? I have to wait for the insight to run through its startup crap and when it comes on the ficm voltage is somewhere between 47.5v and 49v....this is usually 5-6 seconds after the truck has started.
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Turn the key on and wait for the CTS to start up, then start the truck.
What PGreenSVT stated. Put the key on, wait for the plugs to warm and the Insight to startup, then turn it over. The voltage at start up is the value you're really looking for. I don't check mine every time, but at a minimum once a week.

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Unfortunately the Edge Insight CTS just by itself is gonna be $400. Then you will have $129 for EGT, $129 for sensor kit and $129 or so for the sensor input kit.

It is well worth the money, I have never regreted buying the CTS and related components.

I don't have a problem spending for the CTS if it gives me more options than the Scan Gauge. I can add the other kits later as cash comes available.
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