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Innovative FICM Tuner

Has anyone used this product? It seems pretty neat and iam thinking about trying it but every time i try and call innovative to talk to them and find out more about it they never answer! Just wondering if anyone has had any luck out of this product?
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IDP Ford 6.0L Powerstroke FICM Programmer - Better mileage, more power, and great throttle response

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ehhhh......

I think PHP has a better product FOR NOW...

They have more options for power and they also have a handheld tuner you can buy and change tunes

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I have used this tuner and it worked just fine for me. I went with them over PHP because I didnt have to wait 12 weeks to get a tuner sent to me (I called, they had one available, and they sent it to me) and I didnt want to mail my FICM off and have it tuned. Nevertheless, I do want to try a PHP tune just to see but the IDP tune has been great so far.

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PHP now has the FICM tuner you can buy for $400 that doesn't require any waiting

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ehhhh......

I think PHP has a better product FOR NOW...

They have more options for power and they also have a handheld tuner you can buy and change tunes
Innovative has this option as well as multiple FICM power levels.

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I wouldn't say PHP is better than IDP's ficm tuning, they're all different in their own respects just like ecm tuning, however to each his own. But make these choices when you've tried both. Thats my opinion.

I think you will be happy with the idp flash, its your ultimate choice, the PHP is definitely worth the wait in my opinion
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I came off the wrong way.... They are both great in their own way

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I'm not trying to persuade you into PHP, like already mentioned it your choice.

Here is a little review of the PHP Gryphon FICM tuner.
Review: Gryphon FICM programmer.

I do like the PHP option better, because I also have the capability to switch the software in the Gryphon and rollback my PCM to a better strategy, then switch back the software to the FICM programs.

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I guess to each their own. As Greg alluded to, they are both great companies and I think the only real way to get anything objective would be to try both companies tunes on either a dyno and/or track and see how things shake out.

As far as being able to roll back to a different ECM strategy, I really think that only matters if you keep your truck stock. I could be wrong but if you are running a "custom" tune, the tuner will no doubt modify (what they have found to be) the best strategy for making power so rolling back isnt that important IMO. Hope this helps.

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As far as being able to roll back to a different ECM strategy, I really think that only matters if you keep your truck stock. I could be wrong but if you are running a "custom" tune, the tuner will no doubt modify (what they have found to be) the best strategy for making power so rolling back isnt that important IMO. Hope this helps.
The earlier strategies provide a little more power and better MPG. From what Bill (PHP) told me, the early strategies use the EBP sensor as an input to the PCM to better control/operate the motor functions.

Yes, rolling back to a earlier strategy will require different strategy custom tunes on the SCT. The VXAP1,VXAP2, VXBC7, VXBC9, VXCF7, and VXCF9 get rolled back and required you to have your custom tunes re-written to match.

For me, it's worth a shot to rollback for $75 if I'm gonna gain a little more power and possibly gain 1-2 mpg.

To each their own, going with PHP just gives you more options, but you pay for those options. PHP FICM tuner is $100 more, then add in $75 if you choose to rollback the PCM. The Gyphon can also be used as a monitor and code reader.

LOL!! I bet we are confusing the heck out of the OP!! LOL! Decisions..... Decisions!!! He He!

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