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post #1 of 40 Old 03-15-2012, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
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what is wrong with Bullydog?

Specifically.

I've read a ton of threads on here, and I keep seeing "if you like your transmission, ditch the bullydog".

I just had a ton of work done to my 03 F350 6.0. Part of it was a BD triple dog tuner. All I can say is HOLY Sh!eaaat! My truck freakin rips! I'm gonna have to buy stock in Tirerack if I don't keep the sucker out of the Extreme mode for sure.. In short... so far.. I like it. HUGE improvement. Seat of the pants change is night and day. So..........

Seriously... a company that built it's reputation on making HP and torque gains in trucks like ours... and the product is "bad"? Damages the transmission? Really?

Tell me why, and in what conditions, a Bullydog tuner is bad for the average truck. When I say "average" I mean daily driver trucks. I've got a 25' trailer.. but it sits on my property most of the time. I honestly don't tow all that often.

I know you guys have your favorite local members here that do custom tunes... and I'm sure they're great. But honestly... what is wrong with a basic "canned" Bullydog tuner?
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I searched "bully dog problems" and found this:

Help with Stock 05 f350 6.0 First Mods

Please help

Bully dog triple dog power pup

Diesel Tuners and Risks

I can't decide on a tuner...

Bullydog vs SCT *note the very last post in this thread*

*Trans issues*: 04 Tranny clunking into gears

*This is a common complaint*: bully dog problem

*Another Trans Issue*: trans relearn?

I explain it to people at the fuel station like this, "your edge/banks/bully dog basically throws a bunch of power at your motor and leaves your trans to fend for itself".


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Those are some great links! Bully dog is one of the worst programmers because they make more power than any of the other canned tuners, but they do absolutely nothing for the transmission (you can choose between firm or soft shifting, so it ca increase line pressure, big deal) These trannys are completely incapable of being tuned on the fly, and if you want to make lots of reliable power, custom tuning is the ONLY way to go.

My truck had an Edge Juice on it when I bought it (the PO had an SCT but put the edge on just to sell it) and let me tell you when I switched to custom tunes it was like a competely different truck. It runs smoother, faster, and more efficiently.

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152k on my pmt and original trans. Never ran on extreme or changed tunes on the fly. I tow alot of equipment too, never a problem. Buddy has a duramax with one, has over 100k no problems. He tows a 38' tow hauler round the country 6 monthes a year. Id assume the problems come from changing tunes on the fly. Just doesnt seem like a good idea.
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I've put bully dogs on a ton of 6.0's and have never had a complaint.
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I've put bully dogs on a ton of 6.0's and have never had a complaint.
The 9 links I found in 20mins from one site say otherwise. Sorry.

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nine people on one website vs. a hundred + people IRL?

I'm not saying they're the end-all tuner for a 6.0. Just saying they work.
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Whats a safe and nice performances level to run on the Bully Dog Power Pup
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There are a lot more than 9 people talking about bullydog problems in those nine threads from one website.

They work........if you never want to use it for it's intended purpose...power. A lot of people would never let their friends use bd, edge, banks, etc. But some people would let others use those brands if they made money off the transaction.

2003 centennial edition f250 4x4 ccsb auto w/blackwater long block w/arp's, 4" exhaust, airaid intake, ODawg's manifold, itp's reg return, sap modified solenoid, DC power 185amp alt, motorcraft 850cca, Warn Hubs, RS 55w 6k hid's, harley headlights, bpd 58v 6 phase, bpd water pump, dieselsite coolant filter, elc coolant, php gryphon, Xcal2 w/unlimited tow, new hfcm, glowshift fuel psi gauge, icon level kit, 20" kmc hoss, 305/55 terra grapplers TOTALED
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a lot of people regurgitate stuff they read on forums is all I'm saying.

I haven't had any complaints. If people ask me what's the best thing for their 6.0, I don't recommend a bully dog. But if somebody insists they want it, I sell it to them. Like I said, easily 100+ 6.0's with bully dog with ZERO complaints.

If they were so god-awful horrible, you think I might have one? two?
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