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post #1 of 11 Old 02-27-2012, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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Banks and Superchips Vs SCT

So.... My friend has / had a 04 6.0, which is currently sitting in his driveway because he blew the motor (dealer said dust?) Anyways, he's running a banks intake, 4" banks exhaust, banks six gun, and a superchips, the older style one.

I'm being told that with the stacked programmers, that it would kill my truck...

I'm pretty positive he's wrong.. but... whats the deal with stacking programmers? it wouldn't seem like your getting much more than confusing the crap out of the truck

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Stacking programmers is BAD! Each programmer is tested by its manufacturer to get as much power out of the engine by advancing timing, modifying VGT cycle, increasing fuel injected, etc. By stacking the prgrammers, the engine is being overloaded with timing, boost and fuel which can lead to unsafe boost levels and dangerously high cylinder pressures... probably why he blew the motor.

And I haven't even talked about what that can do to the tranny

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yah i think it went in for gaskets 3 times.... trucks a mess

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I agree completely. I've seen a few 6.0s running stacked tunes and they didn't last long before head gaskets and trannys come out.



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i've been in 6.0's with bully dogs, edge, quadzillas, superchips, banks... never feels right, it doesnt shift right or no low end or no top end

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after having custom tunes, everything else just feels wrong.

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i've been in 6.0's with bully dogs, edge, quadzillas, superchips, banks... never feels right, it doesnt shift right or no low end or no top end
I beg to differ, sir. While I am a true believer in the superiority of my SCT over Edge, I ran mid 14s at a 4000ft track and have a string of 2nd and 3rd place truck pull finishes from an Edge Platinum. There are also a few 5.0s around here that think twice before messing with my big red truck.

Edge isn't all bad, but it isn't all good either.

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I beg to differ, sir. While I am a true believer in the superiority of my SCT over Edge, I ran mid 14s at a 4000ft track and have a string of 2nd and 3rd place truck pull finishes from an Edge Platinum. There are also a few 5.0s around here that think twice before messing with my big red truck.

Edge isn't all bad, but it isn't all good either.
Not arguing at all... that's still impressive.. Now I know he didn't have the supporting mods and what not, but my buddy went through hg's quick with his edge, even with all the safety parameters it had. i know its different truck to truck and person to person, just saying from what i've personally seen. i mean, it must run pretty good times or it wouldnt sell like crazy right?

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have you run yours with the sct? to try and get a time difference?

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Hercules FICM / ID Extreme / Vivian's Looney / Spartan Hybrid Race
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4" Turbo Back Straight Pipe / Blue Spring / 6.4 Banjos
7" Pro Comp Lift and Leveling / Zone Adj. Track Bar
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I've seen EDGE programmed trucks lay down some impressive HP numbers on the dyno. I've also beat the same trucks in a head to head. I think Edge products are probably the best "off the shelf" or "canned" tunes you can run. I still like the custom tunes the absolute best, but I do believe the EDGE tunes beat out the canned SCT tunes.

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