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Old 10-23-2011, 11:56 AM
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Will dealer install new or old stand pipes and dummy plugs

Well it looks like it finally happened to me. I walked out to my truck today to find a little under a quart of coolant on the ground and it's leaking down from the passenger side. So I'm gonna be taking my truck in to the dealer and they will be doing a new oil cooler, new heads, egr delete, and arp studs. Will they replace the stand pipes and dummy plugs with the new style or leave my old ones in place? Or will they replace with the old style? All this is covered under warranty so I'm not sure if these are typically replaced with this job. Also I'm still not sure with which egr delete kit to go with. Should I just weld the cooler shut and leave everything else in place since I have an 06 or do the full delete. Also that should be everything I need to do while their in there right?
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:59 AM
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how are yall gettin the dealers to do this??? I tried gettin my dealership to install some stuff like this, but was told they arent allowed, and would get in alots of trouble...and all i asked for was an egr delete..
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Ya they will get in lots of trouble, IF they get caught. Not sure my dealer would do all that, but they do thousands worth of warranty work on mine, and told me to put the SCT in the front seat, just in case they needed to return it to stock. Just depends on the dealer.
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Well it looks like it finally happened to me. I walked out to my truck today to find a little under a quart of coolant on the ground and it's leaking down from the passenger side. So I'm gonna be taking my truck in to the dealer and they will be doing a new oil cooler, new heads, egr delete, and arp studs. Will they replace the stand pipes and dummy plugs with the new style or leave my old ones in place? Or will they replace with the old style?
If they follow the proper Ford procedure (and common sense) they would replace them. I would like to caution you that the Ford procedure for checking head for flat is NOT sufficient. There have been MANY that have had the dealer do studs for them, only to have the head gaskets fail again. They MUST be sent to a machine shop to be milled flat, EVEN IF THEY ARE NEW (unless you want to have a future head gasket failure).
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All this is covered under warranty so I'm not sure if these are typically replaced with this job. Also I'm still not sure with which egr delete kit to go with. Should I just weld the cooler shut and leave everything else in place since I have an 06 or do the full delete. Also that should be everything I need to do while their in there right?
Full delete, unless you are experienced welding stainless steel.
After the EGR cooler delete kit is installed, leave the EGR valve right where it is (or at a minimum, plugged in electrically).

Since deleting the EGR cooler would be tampering with an emissions control device, and by doing so is a violation of Federal law, many dealers will not take the risk of installing the egr delete kits. The fines for getting caught are quite high.
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you will have to buy the dummy plugs. the standpipes come with the headgasket kits

you need to have them change your STC fitting also. You'll have to buy it and small amout of labor but it's well worth it
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:32 PM
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Well I know the mechanic who's working on the truck pretty well since I used to work at the dealership so I trust he'll do it right. Then if the head gasket goes again I'll take the truck back in to have it done again under warranty with all new parts again. I'm only at 70k miles now and I have the 200k mile warranty so I got some time. Just curious though how much do dummy plugs and the stc fitting cost without labor, just parts?

I'm also still in the air about the egr delete. Maybe someone can explain it better to me. But i see the only benefit from doing the egr delete is to keep exhaust from entering the intake. I mean isn't the problem truly related to the oil cooler clogging which in return overheats and ruptures the egr cooler. So with that thinking even with the egr delete the coolant still has a chance of clogging at the oil cooler and blocking the egr cooler. I guess if there's no exhaust gasses in the egr cooler it won't overheat and rupture but coolant flow is still blocked. Can anyone explain this to me better because the way I see it the oil cooler is the problem not the egr cooler.

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Right around $200 or so
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Another benefit to the full on delete is keeping your coolant health strong and keeping coolant out of the path the the intake. The cooler can still rupture even if the oil cooler is fine
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